Suprisingly, some obviously don't know that NR long guns can be stored in strict compliance to, and in accordance with, all regulations and still be adequately available for other uses such as self defense. This has been discussed to death 
,so I won't add to it.
As far as the reliability of military weapons goes, I've fired many beretta 92s and several M16s that were, whatever your definition, UN-reliable. Whether they could all have somehow, some way, been made so, I don't know.
I never had a single malfunction shooting thousands of rounds out of our revolvers, nor do I know of a single malfunction in any revolver being used by anyone else at the range. But we could hear the frequent swearing and complaining of those standing next to us who were firing semis. In my youth I had a friend who owned a 22 semi and he had nothing but trouble with it.
I must admit, however, that pistol and rifle semis are very very ###y and attractive.
(So are some women I've known, none of whom I would have married, even if they were the last women on earth.)
Today I should receive in the mail a brand new NR CSA VZ58 7.62 that I ordered last week. The thing is reputed to be ultra-reliable. Maybe it is. I'll find out for myself very soon.
But I would still rather use a "hot" 22 for hd. I have observed for myself the effect of these rounds on clay, "synthetic flesh", water jugs, etc. and I am convinced that, for this and other reasons that I will not repeat yet again, in the close quarters of a typical house these rounds will do the job more than adequately.
Outside of the house, at a distance (I can not imagine that ever happening, except maybe in a next "financial crisis" that really effects everyone and desperate, starving people do desparate things), I'd grab the vz. In such a situation I very much doubt if the "authorities" will be concerned about how people are, or are not, storing their firearms. They'll be too busy protecting their politician-masters from the "threat" posed by sheep-turned-into-wolves.
You take the high road and I'll take the low road. This thread was not supposed to be about which round was best for hd, although that is apparently a very addictive subject (even in the land where some gun nutz say that such use would be wrong, wrong, wrong and should, apparently, not even discussed). I intended this thread to be, and IMO should still be, about the reliability/appropriatness of the various 22 actions for an "hd-type" situation.
Speaking of which, anybody own one of those Rossi revolver carbines in 22 and 22 mag? If so, what do you think?
,so I won't add to it.As far as the reliability of military weapons goes, I've fired many beretta 92s and several M16s that were, whatever your definition, UN-reliable. Whether they could all have somehow, some way, been made so, I don't know.
I never had a single malfunction shooting thousands of rounds out of our revolvers, nor do I know of a single malfunction in any revolver being used by anyone else at the range. But we could hear the frequent swearing and complaining of those standing next to us who were firing semis. In my youth I had a friend who owned a 22 semi and he had nothing but trouble with it.
I must admit, however, that pistol and rifle semis are very very ###y and attractive.
(So are some women I've known, none of whom I would have married, even if they were the last women on earth.) Today I should receive in the mail a brand new NR CSA VZ58 7.62 that I ordered last week. The thing is reputed to be ultra-reliable. Maybe it is. I'll find out for myself very soon.
But I would still rather use a "hot" 22 for hd. I have observed for myself the effect of these rounds on clay, "synthetic flesh", water jugs, etc. and I am convinced that, for this and other reasons that I will not repeat yet again, in the close quarters of a typical house these rounds will do the job more than adequately.
Outside of the house, at a distance (I can not imagine that ever happening, except maybe in a next "financial crisis" that really effects everyone and desperate, starving people do desparate things), I'd grab the vz. In such a situation I very much doubt if the "authorities" will be concerned about how people are, or are not, storing their firearms. They'll be too busy protecting their politician-masters from the "threat" posed by sheep-turned-into-wolves.
You take the high road and I'll take the low road. This thread was not supposed to be about which round was best for hd, although that is apparently a very addictive subject (even in the land where some gun nutz say that such use would be wrong, wrong, wrong and should, apparently, not even discussed). I intended this thread to be, and IMO should still be, about the reliability/appropriatness of the various 22 actions for an "hd-type" situation.
Speaking of which, anybody own one of those Rossi revolver carbines in 22 and 22 mag? If so, what do you think?
, but one "concern" with an "HD .22 LR" is that 
- in all likelihood 
- there are probably going to be multiple shots fired in an "HD scenario".....
