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Hi,

Does anybody have an opinion about add-on adjustable ribs available on the market ?


I find myself either burying my head on the stock or raising my stock to a point where it barely holds on my shoulder to line up properly. Both feel quite uncomfortable to me. Naturally, I prefer a lower hold with straight head/levelled eyes.


There is probably some technique / gun fitting I have to work on before I go for it, but it might be part of the solution.


I shoot mostly sporting and the occasional trap.
 
I bought my wife a youth Remington 1187 20 gauge. She wanted something small to fit her small frame. Event with the youth model she found the reach from the gun grip to the trigger too awkward. So I switched out her stock for a tactical thumb-grip stock. Now she loves her gun and enjoys coming out shooting with me. HOWEVER, the tactical thumb grip stock just doesn't fit in a way that allows you to get your head down on the stock to look down the rib. She does her best but adjusts her sight picture to shoot where she thinks she should - not at the target. Why this big back-story that doesn't seem to answer your question? I just bought an add-a-rib and will be putting it on her frankenshotgun in the next week or two. Because it is a youth model the barrel is short so I will have to chop the add-a-rib before I can attach it. I've spoken with a friend that swears by them and has them on each of his shotguns. He gave me some pointers about adhesives to use and how to tape it so that there is no sealant mess stuck to the rib and barrel. I'll let you know how it goes.
 
Ty for the reply and let me know how it goes.


I'm shooting a Beretta SV10, so no tacticool option for me :) DeVault crafts custom stock with pistol grip (a bit like Anschutz rifle) but a bit out of my budget !


Ideally, i'd like something removable. I saw some models with magnet but unsure on how good they hang there and how good they return to zero when you re-attach it. A 1/16th offset go a long way at 30y...
 
Sounds like you could also benefit from an adjustable butt pad on your gun as well.
Are you particularly tall? Or have a long neck? What you're describing sounds like you dont have enough drop on your gun, or that your mount wont allow for it.
A Jones, 100-Straight, or Nelson Pad Adjuster could be of benefit as to getting the butt stock in the right place. Also extending your stock with spacers could help as well. The longer LOP would have your cheek further back on the comb, and therefore at a greater drop. But if its too long you'll start to have difficulty mounting your gun. Adding a rib would also help with the situation, although I'm not sure a magnetic one would stand up to recoil all that well? I dont have much experience in that department.

An appointment with a good gun fitter would be ideal in your situation... that being said in Canada they are as rare as unicorns.
Klaus Hiptmayer is in your neighbourhood I think... might be worth a call. http://www.herosarms.com/Klaus_Hiptmayer_Stockmaker/
Other than that, I dont know of many others here in Canada. I'm hoping to visit Todd Nelson of the Country Gentleman some time with my Citori, but the furthest north he gets is Chicago...

Rollin Oswald has a book that may be of some help to you as well.
http://www.amazon.ca/Stock-Fitters-Bible-Rollin-Oswald/dp/1451570384

Best of luck with your fit, you're one of many people that Shotgun manufacturers simply don't build for.

-Scott
 
I have never seen or heard of an add on rib that is adjustable. I know a couple of fellows that made their own out of balsa wood and tried different modifications to the wood one, until they got what they were looking for. Then they ordered a manufactured one to their specs from a US supplier.

Gun fit is the key to success on the line. Many of the newer guns that you see being purchased have high ribs and large stocks, that may be custom made to fit the owners. Like this one ...

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This gives a "heads up" style of shooting. This can be accomplished by making your stock adjustable and installing an add on rib, as needed. s2photo gave you some very good information.
 
Tyvm for all the post.

addjustarib option, as any other using adhesive, didn't looked solid enough to me. My sV10 rib's top is checkered so would be a hard one to attach with double faced tape.

I’ll start with an adjustable butt pad and make sure I have proper coaching. Any recommendation for the pad ?

Next option on the list is to buy Beretta687’s gun. That’s a nice one :D Don’t know how you can miss with a gun looking so good ! lol
 
Hi,

Started working with some local "know it all" and it was quite obvious my comb is too low.

Before butchering my stock to install an adjustable comb or using ugly electric tape (I’m kind of a show off after all !), I stumbled on these Beretta adjustment drop kit made for my SV10.

http ://www.berettausa.com/products/beretta-stock-drop-adjustment-drop-kit-for-perennia/preveil/

Anybody worked with them ?
 
I recently tried to go the "high rib" route with my Browning XT trap. The reason I tried it is I wanted a more heads-up view while shooting. I have an adjustable comb on my gun which is essential for a high rib set-up. Having an adjustable butt plate is also helpful. I bought the Add-a-rib short adjustable rib, than mounts with 3M double face tape on any rib, including a checkered rib (like mine). Th eproduct is good, mounts solidly, adjustable angle works well, so does everything it was advertised to do. I was able to get the gun fitted very well, with an excellent sight picture, and patterning 75% high. Head position was excellent, eyes up and level, comb nicely welded under the cheekbone. All the specs pointed to a perfect fit. Before using the high rib, I was shooting 23-24 consistently, with a handful of 25's here and there. After the Add-a-rib, my scores dropped to 19-22 range, and no matter how much I shot, and how hard i worked on it, I couldn't get the scores up. I gave it about 2 months of deliberate practice, before deciding to go back to the bare factory rib. My first round after removing the rib I shot a 21. Second round I shot a 25. Now I'm shooting 24's regularly. In a nutshell, the high rib simply didn't work for me.

This past 2 days, I was at a trap clinic run by the legendary Nora Ross, and during a break, we chatted about my High-rib experience. She confided in me that she had the exact same experience. She tried everything to make it work, and it should have worked, but didn't. She also reverted back to standard rib height.

So thats my experience, it didn't work for me or Nora, but thats not to say it wont work for you. Harlan Campbell makes it work, and shoots top scores, as do most Olympic trap shooters, so do what works for you. The Add-a-rib product is a good way to try it without a huge investment. At $150 you can get a feel for it and have the added bonus of adjustability to fine tune POI.

Good Luck.

 
Ty Mark, very informative post.

I'll working on getting proper coaching and a good gun fitting first and will see from there.

I'm sent my SV10 to have Graco's adjustable comb + butt plate installed to help with the fitting part.


My sporting rib seems to have a lower profile then your trap gun so I hope it will turn out ok. At least i know that the tape-on option is available. I'd probably go for the full lenght one tho.


Wish there was an unsingle barrel available, I'd jump on it for trap (and the cool factor ;) ) !


JF
 
jf3012 said:
Ty Mark, very informative post.

I'll working on getting proper coaching and a good gun fitting first and will see from there.

I'm sent my SV10 to have Graco's adjustable comb + butt plate installed to help with the fitting part.


My sporting rib seems to have a lower profile then your trap gun so I hope it will turn out ok. At least i know that the tape-on option is available. I'd probably go for the full lenght one tho.


Wish there was an unsingle barrel available, I'd jump on it for trap (and the cool factor ;) ) !


JF
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Keep in mind that the full length one will add twice the weight. Even the short one I used was noticeably heavier, and it is made from aluminum. You are definitely on the right track with having the comb and butt added and working with a fitter. Keep us posted.
 
The picture I posted is the gun that I shoot (not mine, but just like it). When I originally bought the gun I had the unsingle barrel like this one.
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and I just could not shoot it consistently. My scores were up and down. Last year, I changed barrels and went to this top single barrel.
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. I also had a custom stock made and generally, my scores have improved significantly.

Some people shoot through the beads and some (like me) shoot off the end of the barrel. It doesn't seem to matter to me how high the rib / barrel / POI is, I generally still shoot the gun flat. Where you can have some issues is shooting a straight away target vs an angled target.

This is a game of trial and error. What works for some folks, doesn't for others. Many folks spend a lifetime looking for that perfect gun and never find it. I suggest, if you can afford it, go to the Grand American in Sparta, Illinois. You can shoot just about every gun available in North America in every configuration there. That experience may shorten your quest and answer a lot of questions for you.
 
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