Adjusting KIDD 2 stage trigger ?

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So I just got one of those triggers to replace a malfunctioning stock trigger ...

I am pretty underwhelmed (IMO its almost POS territory) but anything is still better than a malfunctioning stock trigger .... so far so good. I want to like it ...


Unfortunately I adjusted the little hex screw INSIDE the trigger weight adjustment screw that the manual says not to touch ..

Does anybody know what exactly it does and how to adjust it properly ? (I find the not provided instructions dont make full sense to me)

Does anybody know what is the highest weight I can set the second stage to? Apparently stock weight is 8 oz but it is actually hard to not accidentally fire mine just from going from 1st stage to 2nd stage...
 
Search rimfire central, IIRC someone posted decent instructions on there years back.

You should be very happy once you get it sorted, mine is very very good.
 
Teac said:
So I just got one of those triggers to replace a malfunctioning stock trigger ...

I am pretty underwhelmed (IMO its almost POS territory) but anything is still better than a malfunctioning stock trigger .... so far so good. I want to like it ...


Unfortunately I adjusted the little hex screw INSIDE the trigger weight adjustment screw that the manual says not to touch ..

Does anybody know what exactly it does and how to adjust it properly ? (I find the not provided instructions dont make full sense to me)

Does anybody know what is the highest weight I can set the second stage to? Apparently stock weight is 8 oz but it is actually hard to not accidentally fire mine just from going from 1st stage to 2nd stage...
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I just got one of these Kidd two-stage 10/22 triggers as well. Kidd says they will work down to 4oz 1st stage and 4oz 2nd stage (total of 8oz to release sear). I found when I adjusted mine that low the sear would not reset; so had to readjust, just as you are.

Kidd recommends keeping the pull weights for the first and second stage roughly equal. You probably have the following instructions, but just in case, here's the link: https://www.kiddinnovativedesign.com/assets/images/NEW Two Stage Instructions.pdf

The best way to adjust this trigger pack, at least for me, was to use a trigger pull scale. Screw #169 in the diagram on the instructions is for adjusting the 1st stage pull weight (screwing clockwise increases 1st stage trigger pull). If you're looking for a light trigger, keep this one as low as possible while ensuring the sear will reset (this is the one I went too far on the light side). The lowest I could go on my first stage was 6oz.

Once the first stage is set (i.e., it takes what ever weight you've decided is best for you), then adjust the 2nd stage using screw #135 (screwing clockwise increases pressure). To feel "the wall" on the second stage, Kidd recommends making the second stage approximately the same as the 1st stage. So for me, since I set my first stage to 6oz, I adjusted my 2nd stage for an additional 6oz. In other words, the trigger breaks at 12oz total (6oz for 1st stage plus 6oz for second stage).

If you still don't feel the 2nd stage "wall" to your satisfaction, increase the pull weight slightly on screw #135. However, your overall pull weight will always be the amount you've set for the first stage plus the amount required to actually release the sear in the 2nd stage.

Trigger blade over-travel is adjusted using screw #108, don't reduce too much or the sear may not release. I like mine adjusted to where the sear just barely stops releasing, then I add 1/8th of a turn counter-clockwise.

Hope this helps.
 
jdac said:
I just got one of these Kidd two-stage 10/22 triggers as well. Kidd says they will work down to 4oz 1st stage and 4oz 2nd stage (total of 8oz to release sear). I found when I adjusted mine that low the sear would not reset; so had to readjust, just as you are.

Kidd recommends keeping the pull weights for the first and second stage roughly equal. You probably have the following instructions, but just in case, here's the link: https://www.kiddinnovativedesign.com/assets/images/NEW Two Stage Instructions.pdf

The best way to adjust this trigger pack, at least for me, was to use a trigger pull scale. Screw #169 in the diagram on the instructions is for adjusting the 1st stage pull weight (screwing clockwise increases 1st stage trigger pull). If you're looking for a light trigger, keep this one as low as possible while ensuring the sear will reset (this is the one I went too far on the light side). The lowest I could go on my first stage was 6oz.

Once the first stage is set (i.e., it takes what ever weight you've decided is best for you), then adjust the 2nd stage using screw #135 (screwing clockwise increases pressure). To feel "the wall" on the second stage, Kidd recommends making the second stage approximately the same as the 1st stage. So for me, since I set my first stage to 6oz, I adjusted my 2nd stage for an additional 6oz. In other words, the trigger breaks at 12oz total (6oz for 1st stage plus 6oz for second stage).

If you still don't feel the 2nd stage "wall" to your satisfaction, increase the pull weight slightly on screw #135. However, your overall pull weight will always be the amount you've set for the first stage plus the amount required to actually release the sear in the 2nd stage.

Trigger blade over-travel is adjusted using screw #108, don't reduce too much or the sear may not release. I like mine adjusted to where the sear just barely stops releasing, then I add 1/8th of a turn counter-clockwise.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks! This helps ..

Am I correct that the trigger pull is adjusted by the slotted screw and it has a tiny hex screw inside? I adjusted the hex screw inside (134 and 135)...

I have to re adjust the inner hex screw.

a 6 oz trigger seems a bit low ... i am thinking something in the range of 1-1.5 lbs is just fine for me... can it adjust that high?
 
Hi,

I don't have my trigger here in front of me, but all you need is the hex key to adjust the trigger pull weight. To adjust for a pound, I would put the first stage at 8oz and the second stage at 8oz - because these add together your trigger pull scale will read the full 16oz when the second stage is adjusted this way. For 1.5lbs, set the first stage to 12oz and the second stage will be set to the same when the trigger scale shows 24oz (or 1lb 8oz) and the sear breaks.

My trigger breaks at 12oz because I set the first stage to 6oz and the second stage is set to the same; again, they add together. The trigger will adjust up to 2.5lbs - 20oz first stage and 20oz second stage.

Enjoy. It's a great trigger!
 
jdac said:
Hi,

I don't have my trigger here in front of me, but all you need is the hex key to adjust the trigger pull weight. To adjust for a pound, I would put the first stage at 8oz and the second stage at 8oz - because these add together your trigger pull scale will read the full 16oz when the second stage is adjusted this way. For 1.5lbs, set the first stage to 12oz and the second stage will be set to the same when the trigger scale shows 24oz (or 1lb 8oz) and the sear breaks.

My trigger breaks at 12oz because I set the first stage to 6oz and the second stage is set to the same; again, they add together. The trigger will adjust up to 2.5lbs - 20oz first stage and 20oz second stage.

Enjoy. It's a great trigger!
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I understood that you loosen 150 on the side with the hex key, then you adjust trigger pull with a blade screw driver on 134. INSIDE 134 is 135 that does something weird. moving 134 in compresses the stage two spring and increases trigger pull. so how I understand
 
Teac said:
I understood that you loosen 150 on the side with the hex key, then you adjust trigger pull with a blade screw driver on 134. INSIDE 134 is 135 that does something weird. moving 134 in compresses the stage two spring and increases trigger pull. so how I understand
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I suppose if the set screws keeping the adjustment screws are really tight, it would be a good idea to loosen them, then retighten. I found mine had just enough tension to keep the adjusters from backing out on their own.

Here's what I understand to be the key sentences for adjusting the first and second stages from the instructions:

SLACK-FIRST STAGE: Turning the hex screw in the center of the first stage (169) pressure piece clockwise will increase the first stage pressure. Turning the hex screw counter clockwise will decrease the first stage pressure.

LET OFF PRESSURE (SECOND STAGE WEIGHT): Let off pressure is the pressure required to release the hammer (122) from the sear (128) in turn firing the rifle. This pressure is determined by the second stage pressure piece (134). Turning the hex screw in the center of the second stage pressure piece clockwise will increase let off pressure. Adjustments should be made in 1/8 turn increments until the desired pressure is achieved.
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Except for the over-travel, I didn't seem to need to touch other screws on my trigger.






 
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jdac said:
I suppose if the set screws keeping the adjustment screws are really tight, it would be a good idea to loosen them, then retighten. I found mine had just enough tension to keep the adjusters from backing out on their own.

Here's what I understand to be the key sentences for adjusting the first and second stages from the instructions:
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SLACK-FIRST STAGE: [/FONT][FONT=&]Turning the hex screw in the center of the first stage (169) pressure piece clockwise will increase the first stage pressure. Turning the hex screw counter clockwise will decrease the first stage pressure.
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[FONT=&]LET OFF PRESSURE (SECOND STAGE WEIGHT): [/FONT][FONT=&]Let off pressure is the pressure required to release the hammer (122) from the sear (128) in turn firing the rifle. This pressure is determined by the second stage pressure piece (134). Turning the hex screw in the center of the second stage pressure piece clockwise will increase let off pressure. Adjustments should be made in 1/8 turn increments until the desired pressure is achieved.[/FONT]
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Except for the over-travel, I didn't seem to need to touch other screws on my trigger.

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very good point... it does seem to be the hex screw .... when I adjust mine too much it wont fire anymore .. could be it makes the spring compress totally ...

I had mistaken this for the trigger pull:

LET OFF ENGAGEMENT-SECOND STAGE ENGAGEMENT: Let off engagement is the point where slack has been reduced to a minimum just prior to releasing the hammer (122). This engagement is determined by the second stage pressure piece (134). To increase let off: first loosen the second stage pressure piece lock screw (150). With a blade screwdriver, turn the second stage pressure piece clockwise.
 
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