Advice: 270 vs 270 wsm

awesome, to the point info....thank you!

now my question is about recoil...would 7mm or 308 be alot more than 270 or 270 wsm?
 
now my question is about recoil...would 7mm or 308 be alot more than 270 or 270 wsm?

Which 7mm?As I just posted,there are many 7mms.The 7mm-08 would have slightly less recoil than a 270win,and noticeably less than a 270wsm.The 7mmremmag,would have slightly more recoil than a 270wsm.Both the 7mm-08,and 7mmremmag were available in Browning levers.The 308win would have recoil comparable to a 270win,but less than a 270wsm.
 
I as a 270wsm owner AND an owner of a Browning .243BLR agree with stubblejumper that the .308 model may be another excellent choice for you. It will do all that you ask of it, and does have manageable recoil. Really either would be an excellent choice, and the .308 would likely be better for the amount of commerical ammo available to you as it's been around so long. The flatness of the shooting due to increased velocity may not be as important to a newer hunter, as you might not be quite as comfortable 'reaching out and touching something' so for that the one slight advantage of the .270wsm.
 
Muley as I am only a hunter for 4 years. I have harvested and eaten approximatley 13 animals, mostly deer....with my 270 all in between 50 yards and 260 yards.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Pride speaking lol....


I do plan on reaching out further when I have the opportunity to do so.

Saying this I think what your saying is that the 270 wsm would be the best option for that in the forementioned options? so would the 308 be the next bes for longer distances?
 
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Saying this I think what your saying is that the 270 wsm would be the best option for that in the forementioned options? so would the 308 be the next bes for longer distances?

The 7mm-08 would also be a good choice.If you are after longer range precision,a bolt action would be a better choice though.They have better triggers,and it is usually easier to get better accuracy from them,than from a lever.That is not to say that a lever can't be accurate,but the odds do favor a bolt action.I have hunted with bolt actions,semi autos and levers,and now I use only bolt actions.An experienced shooter can cycle a bolt quickly as he recovers from the recoil,so in the unlikely event that a second shot is required,cycling a bolt is not a big hindrance.
 
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That's what I was saying. I feel that the 270wsm is slightly superior for downrange ballistics but for the majority of your typical shots, that is less than 300 yards you really wouldn't see any significant improvement over the 308. It's just once you start to get beyond that I would consider it to be superior. Like I said I own a .270wsm. I bought it because it's extremely flat shooting (it WILL allow you to reach out and touch something past 300 or 400 yards with reasonable confidence), has manageable recoil, will easily allow my to kill 95% of the animals in North America. About the only thing I wouldn't hunt with mine is Grizz and Alaska moose. Not that you couldn't kill either one of those under good conditions, but I just feel that it's not an appropriate calibre for animals that large and nasty. Many will argue, but that is just how I feel. As far as those that say the ammo is hard to get, they haven't looked very hard, because it's in every real gun store I have ever been in, Federal, Winchester, and Remington are all loading multiple weights and bullet types, and there is plenty of new brass and reloading supplies kicking around. It's the real deal, don't believe any nay sayers. I recommended the .308 because it is a great round as well, will cost you less to shoot a lot, and will do almost anything the 270wsm will. ALSO, as was mentioned the Browning lever really isn't the best choice in a long range rifle, so for the 300 yard shooting and less that it would be best used for the advantanges of the 270wsm are lost a bit. It's really a toss up to me, with the advantage going to the .308 because of your rifle choice and the cost of ammo. Tell me you are interested in a bolt and I tell you to buy a .270wsm so you can take advantage of all it has to offer. Clear as mud? Welcome to the world of guns and hunting ;)
 
Muley this absolutely clears it up...and I understand the preference aspect. As I said I use 270 bolt now ( cheap savage that works like a charm). How ever I do want to shoot a lever action as it has been a childhood dream of mine. As I said originally the old man had a 30-30 that i loved to #### lock and load...lol

It was stolen and frankly i have never even fired one in my life....lol

I am not fluent with a bolt and frankly I have fired bolts much smoother than my cheap savage and it kinda pis ses me off.....plus my magazine sucks, they are flimsy and crappy springs. So all of this combined I want a lever and i like the calibre (270) but i am considering the 270 wsm since it is only option here in PG BC due availability....I am gonna go check out stock comfort now....

I am thinking the 270 wsm may be a nice addition.....I think if I go for long distance shooting i may stick with wsm as well

ONE more question....

does the 270 projectile get thrown off by blades of grass or wind any easier than any other bullets? (cuz it is so light??)
 
Muley this absolutely clears it up...and I understand the preference aspect. As I said I use 270 bolt now ( cheap savage that works like a charm). How ever I do want to shoot a lever action as it has been a childhood dream of mine. As I said originally the old man had a 30-30 that i loved to #### lock and load...lol

It was stolen and frankly i have never even fired one in my life....lol

I am not fluent with a bolt and frankly I have fired bolts much smoother than my cheap savage and it kinda pis ses me off.....plus my magazine sucks, they are flimsy and crappy springs. So all of this combined I want a lever and i like the calibre (270) but i am considering the 270 wsm since it is only option here in PG BC due availability....I am gonna go check out stock comfort now....

I am thinking the 270 wsm may be a nice addition.....I think if I go for long distance shooting i may stick with wsm as well

ONE more question....

does the 270 projectile get thrown off by blades of grass or wind any easier than any other bullets? (cuz it is so light??)

Try Northern Troutfitters on Tuesday. Thier firearms expert will b there that day. HE should be able to show you a gun you like.
 
does the 270 projectile get thrown off by blades of grass or wind any easier than any other bullets? (cuz it is so light??)

There are several common beliefs concerning bullet weight and bullet shape,but regardless of weight or shape,no bullet can be counted on to hit the intended target after striking branches, grass, etc.Several tests posted in various magazines indicate that there is no such thing as a "brush busting" bullet.

However,where wind is concerned,the higher the ballistic co-efficient,and the higher the velocity,the less wind drift.Bullet shape effects the ballistic co-efficient far more than bullet weight.
 
Yes they are the ones with the browning lever 270 wsm....I was askin for a 270 but only have wsm....in that calibre. It is a decent price in contrast to driving to edmonton to buy one....but then again I do want a range finder and am planning an archery shoot in wabamun in begining of may....but either way the wsm is sounding attractive.....but then again i will be researching other makes in the mentioned 7 mm and 308 lever actions now before i go buy....this thread has been great for me:)
 
.but then again i will be researching other makes in the mentioned 7 mm and 308 lever actions now before i go buy...

That won't take long,unless you are considering used rifles.:D

New lever actions in those chamberings are in very short supply due to very limited demand.
 
If you're looking at bear too, I'd include the .308 BLR in the ring. I'm a big fan of the BLR's; smooth rack and pinion action, strong lockup, detachable magazine, there's a lot to love.
 
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