advice needed - 30-30 reloads Modern Reloading receipes...

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Howdy, I'm going to fix up a mess of 30-30 reloads using my old trusty Lee Loader and some 170 grain flat point bullets. (Hornady 170 GR FP INTERLOCK)

To answer my question you'll need a copy of Modern Reloading (first edition). On pp 308-309 there's two different sets of recipes for 170 grain bullets. On page 308 it's simply called "170 grain bullet" and on page 309 it's called "170 grain jacketed".

I'm honestly not sure what the difference in the two sets of receipes are. The first one (170 grain bullet) isn't referrring to lead bullets (they're covered under the "lead" sections). Does the "jacketed" set of recipes refer to FMJs only? Why two sets of receipes?

My bullets are jacketed but are lead flat points, but still there's enough ambiguity in the titles to these receipes that I wanted to check before adding powder...

I just want to use the right set of receipes. Any advice?

thanks
 
Maybe 170 flat nose vs 170 round?

Best bet would be to cross reference with other published data - powder manufacturers websites often have lots of data
 
Hello Tombstone: I haven't any answers but I've been wondering the same thing. The data is notably different.In Lyman's 48 ed. 170 gr. jacketed is referring to a normal jacketed lead flat nose so you could assume your Hornady 170 are jacketed BUT the data does not coincide! Lee suggests for example IMR 4895 29.1 to 31.5 grains. Lyman suggests 24.5 to 28.0 max. Mmmmmm Someone help
Windrover
 
If you are using the original hammer type Lee loader, you shouldn't be messing with max loads IMO.
Unless of course you also have, and use a scale.

under those circumstances, try to work up to 34.1 grains of Rel 15 under a Hornady 170 FP.
This is a hot load, it's recomended at the Alliant website, and it's the most accurate load I have for one of my '94's.
If your gun is loose at all, this load will stretch your brass, I can't use it in my older '94 for that reason.
 
try to work up to 34.1 grains of Rel 15 under a Hornady 170 FP.
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- ditto to that load suggested by Johnny Y Cannuck.

- I get great velocity and consistently around 1" - 3shot groups at a 100yds. with 34 ReL 15 dipped behind a variety of 170gr. jacketed FN and RN bullets from my Marlin Trapper (with a scope). I find that if I scoop thru the powder once with a 2.5cc Lee dipper and shake it sideways to level - then I have 34grs of ReL 15. But use a scale to verify your results. Works 4 me.
 
ricciardelli said:
You don't mention if you are loading for a rifle or a handgun...

rifle:
H-322 From 24.0 grains to 30.0 grains
Winchester WLR Primer

For other choices: http://stevespages.com/308_9.html


handgun:
IMR-4320 From 29.0 grains to 33.0 grains
Winchester WLR Primer

For other choices: http://stevespages.com/308p_4.html
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Up here Steve, it's pretty safe to assume it's not a handgun. The Liberals have been in power for far too long. Good point though.
 
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