Advice on offer received...

I would not ship until paid. One arrangement might be to take the firearm to a local gun store. The buyer could phone and ask questions of the owner, they ship when payment is received.

This would of course cost extra, so the buyer pays for his "security". If this does not interest him, then you are dealing either with a low balling looky loo, or a scammer.
 
i would not ship until paid. One arrangement might be to take the firearm to a local gun store. The buyer could phone and ask questions of the owner, they ship when payment is received.

This would of course cost extra, so the buyer pays for his "security". If this does not interest him, then you are dealing either with a low balling looky loo, or a scammer.

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O P,just food for thought. Depending on the model and bore condition, it might(and most likely will) cost more to have a smith reblue it than it's worth. You may be throwing good money after bad.

Well, indeed it will cost some money... But to me a 9422M in XTR is a beautiful gun, a gun that at least merit to be righted... Dante, here in Montreal, quoted me $ 300. This gun would not be worth very much more than it's worth now but eventually selling it, I would gain a friend rather then an ennemy !

Dominik
 
Well, indeed it will cost some money... But to me a 9422M in XTR is a beautiful gun, a gun that at least merit to be righted... Dante, here in Montreal, quoted me $ 300. This gun would not be worth very much more than it's worth now but eventually selling it, I would gain a friend rather then an ennemy !

Dominik

Wow, on second thought lol. Given the crazy money those rimfire winny levers are commanding, rebluing may not be a bad investment. Any collector value? If so, touching it might diminish value.
 
Who doesn't get cash before they send an item I thought that's how it worked I usually don't cash the emt until I have it packed and am literally going to drive to the post office but you should always make sure you get the money first. I've even had guys send 100 dollar bills but I always made sure I got them before I sent the item.
 
Who doesn't get cash before they send an item I thought that's how it worked I usually don't cash the emt until I have it packed and am literally going to drive to the post office but you should always make sure you get the money first. I've even had guys send 100 dollar bills but I always made sure I got them before I sent the item.

Depends on the person. Id trust alot of the Older guys, Back when it was only 200 people here.
 
For non-restricted - EMT first then ship, not much wriggle room on that one.

For Restricted - one way to give a buyer some confidence is to get the buyer to initiate the transfer. I didn't even know you could do this until I did a deal with a fellow GN'er that did business this way. What it does for the buyer is when they initiate the transfer the CFC verifies that the seller actually owns the gun, serial number is correct, the address is correct, etc ... once the buyer has initiated the transfer sends the reference number and EMT to the seller ... the seller then calls in and completes the transfer, waits for the transfer to go thru and then ships providing the tracking number to the seller. There is no risk to the seller on this as if the buyer never sends the money the firearm is still registered to them. It's just another way to provide an additional level of confidence to the buyer knowing that the seller actually owns the gun and address is square, etc ...
 
For non-restricted - EMT first then ship, not much wriggle room on that one.

For Restricted - one way to give a buyer some confidence is to get the buyer to initiate the transfer. I didn't even know you could do this until I did a deal with a fellow GN'er that did business this way. What it does for the buyer is when they initiate the transfer the CFC verifies that the seller actually owns the gun, serial number is correct, the address is correct, etc ... once the buyer has initiated the transfer sends the reference number and EMT to the seller ... the seller then calls in and completes the transfer, waits for the transfer to go thru and then ships providing the tracking number to the seller. There is no risk to the seller on this as if the buyer never sends the money the firearm is still registered to them. It's just another way to provide an additional level of confidence to the buyer knowing that the seller actually owns the gun and address is square, etc ...

I wouldnt start the transfer till I got money or an EMT because I had people in the past back out, and I started the transfer before I got money out of kindness, or trying to speed things. I had to try and claw my gun back.
 
I wouldnt start the transfer till I got money or an EMT because I had people in the past back out, and I started the transfer before I got money out of kindness, or trying to speed things. I had to try and claw my gun back.

Interesting ... I was given information from CFC that if the buyer doesn't send the money that all the seller had to do was call and cancel the transfer since the transfer has never been completed, the seller is still in control ... one simple call ... or so they said ... your experience was different?
 
Cash first and than ship. That's the way most conduct business because it works! With the exchange of addresses and google maps there are plenty of ways to guard against fraud. Good luck on your sale
 
Interesting ... I was given information from CFC that if the buyer doesn't send the money that all the seller had to do was call and cancel the transfer since the transfer has never been completed, the seller is still in control ... one simple call ... or so they said ... your experience was different?

I had to call the CFC and say the buyer backed out so transfer it back to me.
 
No problems anymore !

As the gun I was selling had blueing issues, I decided not to sell it.
I will eventualy send it to a confidence inspiring gunsmith when I'll find one and have the complete blueing redone right.

So I'm not about to gain any point as a seller and might not even get any either as a buyer as I just saw a 92 points member try to trick me.


Dominik

I doubt you were being tricked. You have a 0 trader rating and they didn't want to risk being scammed. Which seems to be on the rise. That being said I would have suggested some of the other alternatives as already mentioned. I wouldn't expect someone to ship prior to payment.
 
He wasn't trying to trick me by asking I send my $ 800. gun to him in Mission BC from Montreal without ever making an offer for the gun ?
I was the seller and out of the blues, I receive his message.
Like send it to me and I will send you what I think it worth or what I can pay or never will and that to protect himself from fraud ?????

Come on !

I can understand this "private club" rating system among frequent buyers and sellers but this system means nothing to me when asked
to send $ 800. away to a stranger 4,900 kilometers away.

To me he is a 92 points crook who is proving by his actions that the point system is out-dated and really offer NO protection against fraud.

For my respect for all the other members who are as passionnate and honest as I am, I will not state this crook's name on this page.
I will leave that to the people in charge of this fine forum. Will members, with or without points, be protected against his bad faith ?

As for me, I will not buy or sell here so you will all, at least, be protected against me !

Let's close this subject now.


Dominik
 
He wasn't trying to trick me by asking I send my $ 800. gun to him in Mission BC from Montreal without ever making an offer for the gun ?
I was the seller and out of the blues, I receive his message.
Like send it to me and I will send you what I think it worth or what I can pay or never will and that to protect himself from fraud ?????

Come on !

I can understand this "private club" rating system among frequent buyers and sellers but this system means nothing to me when asked
to send $ 800. away to a stranger 4,900 kilometers away.

To me he is a 92 points crook who is proving by his actions that the point system is out-dated and really offer NO protection against fraud.

For my respect for all the other members who are as passionnate and honest as I am, I will not state this crook's name on this page.
I will leave that to the people in charge of this fine forum. Will members, with or without points, be protected against his bad faith ?

As for me, I will not buy or sell here so you will all, at least, be protected against me !

Let's close this subject now.


Dominik

Your loss, Ive been here since the beginning and I never got scammed. We never had the feedback system back then, nor do I find it should be used as a trust. People these days are too quick to blame Cannot beat good ol fashion communication.
 
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