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Hey guys, me and my dad are currently in the market for a moose gun.

Both of us have never hunted moose.

I've been looking at the Savage 11 Trophy Hunter package (probably in 300 WSM) that comes with an upgraded Weaver 3-9 x 40mm riflescope with Ballistic Plex reticle.

an upgraded Weaver 3-9 x 40mm riflescope with Ballistic Plex reticle.

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How is the gun?

How is the scope?

much thanks in advance,

Cheers.
 
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Both the rifle and scope offer the most basic features required to function, at a level that people find acceptable for this price range. In other words, you get what you pay for. I would be looking at the Vanguards that many stores have on clear out, for a similar price.
 
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Both the rifle and scope offer the most basic features required to function, at a level that people find acceptable for this price range. In other words, you get what you pay for.
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I understand that, I guess my question is what are the pros and cons, does it need to be fancier for some important feature I don't know about as an aspiring moose hunter, etc etc.

You know, something with a little more substance than "you get what you pay for". No offense, but thats not very constructive.
 
You will hear lots of good about the rifle, I have owned a few Savages and am unlikely to own another, I had a bad experience with a new one, the bolt came apart and jammed shut on the third shot (factory ammo)in a new rifle, sent in for warranty came back fixed except for the gouge in the receiver from forcing the bolt open, never got an answer about what went wrong. There recoil pads seem to break down and pieces fall off and I do not like their plastic stocks. On the 111 that I had in 338wm the magazine would fall out every second or third shot so I would definitely not have one in a magnum calibre. Too many quality rifles that are affordable, new and used. Not familiar with the scope. On one package rifle that I bought the supplied Weaver style bases were too thin to accept better quality rings. Take your time shopping around and I would handle as many as you can.
 
Speaking as a long-time fan of the value offered by Savage rifles...I too would suggest looking at the Vanguard! My recent experience with Vanguards has been extremely positive, especially the S2 versions with their improved triggers. Really, either rifle will serve you well. It's amazing how much accuracy and how good of a trigger you can get at this low price. Ideally you should try to at least handle them both before making a choice. I personally find the Vanguard stock profile much more comfortable to shoot.
 
I understand that, I guess my question is what are the pros and cons, does it need to be fancier for some important feature I don't know about as an aspiring moose hunter, etc etc.

You know, something with a little more substance than "you get what you pay for". No offense, but thats not very constructive.
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Like most rifles in this price range, the stock is molded plastic, and it isn't overly rigid, so should you decide to float the barrel, this could be an issue. I am not at all a fan of the so called Accu Trigger. I don't like the feel, and they can freeze up in snow or freezing rain. The magazines are cheap, but most function okay. The scope is low end, not overly bright, and the durability of low end scopes like this are questionable,if exposed to rough usage.
 
stubblejumper said:
Like most rifles in this price range, the stock is molded plastic, and it isn't overly rigid, so should you decide to float the barrel, this could be an issue. I am not at all a fan of the so called Accu Trigger. I don't like the feel, and they can freeze up in snow or freezing rain. The magazines are cheap, but most function okay. The scope is low end, not overly bright, and the durability of low end scopes like this are questionable,if exposed to rough usage.
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There is nothing wrong with the OP's Savage package rifle... If they had an unlimited budget, they wouldn't be asking about this gun... Sure the stock is not the best, but it will be serviceable... For $140 you can drop it into a Boyd's stock of your choice at some point down the road... And some don't like the Accu-Trigger (not "so called", it IS the Accu-Trigger), but I have had no problem with any of ours, they have a reasonably clean break... Your choice of caliber is excellent for moose or deer and bear for that matter, .300 WSM has excellent ballistics. OP, if you can afford better then by all means, if you can't, you don't have to apologize to anyone for your choice of firearm... Our Savage rifles have all proven to be accurate... But I am not repping for the brand, I have plenty of Weatherby's, Winchester's, Browning's etc... That I also shoot and enjoy.
 
I'm not a Savage fan, so no on that and I'm a strong Leupold fan, so again, no on the Weaver. Buy quality tools, buy them once, you will not be sorry. Good luck on the Moose hunt. I am so dying for a quality Moose steak! Haven't had one for years!
 
On that light rifle in the chambering you mention, recoil could be an issue.
The S2 offers a bit more weight and I think a superior rifle over the Savage
for a few dollars more.
Not sure about the quality and reliability of the Weaver scope on a rifle
with this kick.
 
I have a Savage 116 in 338 Win Mag. It came as a package with a cheap Simmons scope and aluminum rings. I could not get that rifle to hold zero for long. The recoil would force the scope forward in the rings no matter how tight I made them. I put a Bushnell 3200 on it with some steel rings. It shoots and functions really well and has now killed two moose. As some of the other posters have said the recoil pad is a big foamy thing that tears easy. Mine is now torn a bit and I`m putting a Boyds stock on it in the next few months along with a Limbsaver. The old scope is now on a 223 axis which shoots really well. I guess all in all the point I`m trying to make is a chambering the size of a 300 WSM will produce too much recoil for that scope, base and ring set up. IF it were in 30-06 I may give it a whirl or put steel rings on that 300 WSM rig and go fire away and see what happens. If you knock the scope out then change it at that time. After all my $60 Simmons held up to 100 rounds of my 338. This of course is assuming that the set up you are looking at is the same relative quality as my set up.

I can also say that I have no problem with the Accutrigger. You pull it, the gun goes boom and the moose falls down.

George
 
Another vote for Vanguard/Howa.

I have had 2 Savage 'package' rifles. The first was a .308 that shot well but I replaced the scope and mounts with one of better quality, replaced the trigger and replaced the stock with a Hogue. Those improvements mdae it much nicer.

I currently have this same package you are interested in, in .223. It shoots well but I hate the cheap Savage plastic stocks. That Weaver scope is a definite step up from the Bushnell Sharpshooter on the other packages but its not great. Something like a Burris Fullfield II or old Bushnell Elite 3200 are much nicer. This will probably be my last cheap Savage.

The Vanguard (Howa 1500) is a much nicer rifle in my opinion.
 
to all posters, much much thanks for all your advice, it is of great help. I knew my fellow nutters would have valuable info!

Cheers, keep it coming.
 
I like Weaver scopes but if that one is of their new sub-brand Kaspa, I wouldn't care to have it. The Classic K and Classic V series are excellent value but the package rifles tend to have scopes supplied with the brand marking but no model designation and may not be identifiable as being of a particular quality.

That rifle is made of a long-running successful design of action and Savage makes good barrels. The gun will be good value for money, an effective hunting tool as is and suitable for upgrading if you develop an inclination.
 
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