Advice requested from experienced AR users

Thanks for all the input gentlemen. I kind of figured the AR would be fine since there are so many in use, not to mention in the military. I just want a reliable one that I don't need to baby, although I will anyways. Still difficult to decide which manufacturer to choose however. Too many choices.

As an aside, initially I wanted an M4 type rifle. Can anyone definitively tell me what this means. Since an AR15 is a civilian M16, what is the civilian version of an M4. Is it just an AR with a 16" or less barrel?

One last newbie question: because it's restricted can I have a 10 rd mag?

I lied, last question, is it cheaper to buy the upper and lower separately then to buy the whole rifle?

Thanks again.
Many questions...
An M4 type AR15 is just an AR15 dressed up like an M4. Similar barrel, same stock, same gas tube length, usually flat top.

Yes, 10 rd mags are available. Google or CGN search LAR15 mags (Check out the Questar link in the Site sponsor at the top of the page).

Upper and lower seperate? Well, deals can be had from time to time, but usually no. Keep your eyes peeled though, you never know...
 
i would buy a basic carbine shoot the snot out of it then find out what set up works for you.
I have built allmost 80 ar15s from parts in th last 5yrs, allmost everyone different.
Use good parts of buy factory. stag is good to go for your basic newbie ar15.
contact armseast for more info.
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One last newbie question: because it's restricted can I have a 10 rd mag?

You can have a legal ten round magazine, but not because the rifle is restricted.
(It's the particular magazine, and not the firearm, that determines which is either legal or prohibited. :confused: I know...)


If you want a legal ten round magazine you'll have to buy the RRA LAR-15 magazine. Most other magazines must be limited to five rounds maximum.
 
Most newer generation AR's have spent casing deflectors that are left handed friendly. ...and the sky is the limit for accessories and mods you can do with the AR platform.
 
As an aside, initially I wanted an M4 type rifle. Can anyone definitively tell me what this means. Since an AR15 is a civilian M16, what is the civilian version of an M4. Is it just an AR with a 16" or less barrel?

Colt LE6920
LEO version of the M4, legal for us to have here, but very difficult to find as Colt will only sell/export to LEO. I think I saw one in the EE the other day, not sure if it's sold yet.
 
Colt LE6920
LEO version of the M4, legal for us to have here, but very difficult to find as Colt will only sell/export to LEO. I think I saw one in the EE the other day, not sure if it's sold yet.


When you say it's legal, you mean it is still restricted just not prohibited, right?
 
The SIG 556 is on the nasty ugly Prohibited list in Canada. Pity because it is an outstanding piece of engineering. Without a doubt better than anything made or designed in North America. Every little design detail shows intelligent thought. The legal civilian version is probably just as good. The only trouble is there are none of the aftermarket parts available, like there are for the AR.

Maple Leaf,

Either you forgot to add the smilie to your comment above, or you must've misread the Model number, 'cause there is no way in hell anybody would describe that American made abortion, the SIG 556, "as an outstanding piece of engineering. Without a doubt better than anything made or designed in North America. Every little design detail shows intelligent thought." :eek::eek::eek:

I'm hoping you were referring to the SIG/Swiss Arms 550/551/552/553 family or their related cousins, the Classic Green/Black Special/Blue Star..etc... The SIG 556 is a pale imitation of the former and built to a far cheaper price point in the US.

As for the original poster, in my experience, STAG ARs are much better built than the Bushmaster rifles and I have yet to come across a bad one. Walter, from ArmsEast is the primary STAG importer in Canada and fully stands behind his product.

The direct gas impingement system of the AR can be dirty, but for civilian use is works spectacularly well. Most civilians simply do not shoot enough in the run of a year to make this an issue. If you were deployed to Iraq and shooting cases of ammo a week on full auto in sandstorms, then keeping your rifle immaculate would be an issue...not so much for Canadian shooters at the range.

As for the latest "fad" to hit the AR world, the piston upper, most systems work fine with a little tweaking, but I really don't see the point for us hobby shooters. Some of the systems out there aren't made that well and are unreliable during the best of times, others require constant tweaking and the systems that are reliable are almost prohibitively expensive. At the end of the day, civilian shooters aren't going to realize any additional increases in performance/scores by using a piston upper. Sure, it is cleaner than the direct gas system, but when we look at the total volume of rounds expended it really doen't matter what system you're using to the average shooter....but, if you're just looking to buy into the high "Look Cool Value" then, by all means buy one!:)

If you're a lefty, the left hand STAG is a great buy. The couple of left hand shooters I know who have purchased them really appreciate having a dedicated left hand rifle for them. Sure, they can and still use right hand rifles, but the lefty is more convenient and intuitive for them.
 
When you say it's legal, you mean it is still restricted just not prohibited, right?

The Colt 6920/6921 are still AR-15 variants and remain restricted firearms under Canadian Law. US State Dept. restrictions make it extremely difficult for an individual to export either model out of the US at the present time. The law of supply and demand, as a result, has seen the price for these particular models increase about 150%-200% of their original price from just a few years ago.
 
Over the 5 weeks of training for Bisley and firing hundreds of rounds each day,I cleaned the bolt once a week and never pulled it through at all.It shot great and I never had a stoppage.
 
Maple Leaf,

Either you forgot to add the smilie to your comment above, or you must've misread the Model number, 'cause there is no way in hell anybody would describe that American made abortion, the SIG 556, "as an outstanding piece of engineering. Without a doubt better than anything made or designed in North America. Every little design detail shows intelligent thought." :eek::eek::eek:

I'm hoping you were referring to the SIG/Swiss Arms 550/551/552/553 family or their related cousins, the Classic Green/Black Special/Blue Star..etc... The SIG 556 is a pale imitation of the former and built to a far cheaper price point in the US.

Nope, not trying to be sarcastic or provocative. I might have gotten the number wrong. I was referring to the Swiss-made lovely that is a 55x model number. If you say the 556 is the latest model but pale imitation, I'll accept to be corrected.

The Swiss rifle club in Montreal had a dozen as club rifles until the politicians got some bad advice and put them on the nasty list. We hammered paper with them at 300yds, off our elbows and off the bipod. Really nice rifles.
 
The Swissarms PE90 Classic Green / Black Special rifles are similar to, but slightly different to, the Sig550 issue rifles. THESE ARE TOTALLY UNRESTRICTED FIREARMS IN THIS COUNTRY, so not sure who made you get rid of yours in Montreal, maple leaf?

The Sig 556 is butt-ugly mating of a Sig550 upper with an AR-15 lower (more or less) that was marketed in the U.S. to attract those who only like ARs. It has to be one of the strangest looking long guns on earth, in my opinion - The 556 is prohibited here, as are any of the actual Sig 550 series not grandfathered in the good old days.

Neal
 
It wasn't me that had any care or control over the Swiss rifle club's guns. One of the rules of being born Swiss and male is to have a chance of military service. Not every one has to join the army, but those who are called tend to have deep affections for the opportunity. A consequence of this service is the obligation to fire an annual qualification. Hence the Swiss club's tidy arsenal of 7.5 and 5.56mm rifles. Well kept and in fine shooting condition.

It may have been that these particular rifles were too close to the nasty and bad variety that causes straight hair to curl, people to run stop-signs or decent citizens to drink milk from the carton. ;-) [wink] All I know is the club executive had a turn them in, send them out of the country or go to jail ultimatum from the Quebec coppers.
 
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