It's a bit heavy and gritty but nothing you can't get used to. If I remember correctly the SR9's trigger is about 7.5#, whereas GLOCK's trigger (that so many people seem to hate) is just 5#.
Advice
- Thread starter blr550
- Start date
It's a bit heavy and gritty but nothing you can't get used to. If I remember correctly the SR9's trigger is about 7.5#, whereas GLOCK's trigger (that so many people seem to hate) is just 5#.
Yes and know doubt grip feel has nothing to do with it either.
You ought to quit taking your tactical courses and get out and shoot more TDC. I know guys with short fingers that can't run a 1911. Others find the Glock trigger bothersome and we haven't even discussed the guns ability to handle limp wristing. Watch the following and come back and tell us the Glock is the perfect gun for evreybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh9J...6568AABFC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsewsolPyBU&feature=related
Take Care
Bob
Last edited:
Yes and know doubt grip feel has nothing to do with it either.
You ought to quit taking your tactical courses and get out and shoot more TDC. I know guys with short fingers that can't run a 1911. Others find the Glock trigger bothersome and we haven't even discussed the guns ability to handle limp wristing. Watch the following and come back and tell us the Glock is the perfect gun for evrybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh9J...6568AABFC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsewsolPyBU&feature=related
Take Care
Bob
As usual you have great advice of your own to offer. You're right, I should shoot more, can't do it enough. As for the guys with short fingers, they must have really short fingers if they can't run a pistol. The LOP on most semi autos(of similar style and calibre) differs very little.
The Glock trigger is different from SA 1911 style triggers... It requires skill to operate effectively. Again, a solid understanding and firm grasp of the fundamentals will serve you well. Selecting a pistol based on its trigger is nothing more than an uneducated solution to a (you guessed it) software problem.
The limp wristing is a non issue. If you shoot with a limp wrist your performance is crap to begin with. As I've mentioned before, I cannot duplicate a limp wrist failure as seen on the video. Regardless, limp wristing is caused by poor form not poor design. the limp wrist in the video is exaggerated to say the least. I have to ask, what is the benefit to a pistol that functions 100% with an improper grip???
TDC
The 1911 has a grip safety that has to be engaged before the gun will shoot. Therein lies the problem for some. Get to the trigger or get to the grip safety...
FYI changing grips on the M&P can effect how high your hands ride into the grip. I am now using the "Small" grip panel as I can get my hand higher on the pistol using the "Small" panel. I have medium large glove sized hands. I have seen female RCMP officers who could barely reach the trigger on their issue guns. Some even carry the shorter barreled version because of this issue.
Point being feel and looks have a lot to do with gun purchases just like any other consumer purchase. It just isn't enough to say it doesn't matter or take more training.
Take Care
Bob
How do you hold a 1911 so you can reach the trigger and not be depressing the grip safety without dropping it?? Either way, your example is yet another reason why the 1911 is an inferior dinosaur when compared to more modern semi autos.
Feel should have very little to do with the purchase. Unless you have abnormally small hands or hands smaller than an 11 year old girl, there is nothing wrong with the size of pistol grips. As for looks. Looks have no effect on operation and looks won't help you win a match or a gun fight. Another useless criteria pushed through marketing.
TDC
Feel should have very little to do with the purchase. Unless you have abnormally small hands or hands smaller than an 11 year old girl, there is nothing wrong with the size of pistol grips. As for looks. Looks have no effect on operation and looks won't help you win a match or a gun fight. Another useless criteria pushed through marketing.
TDC
i can't help but notice there's only been one voice for the beretta 92- well, you can add mine as well= the 1 i have is an italian model sb( heel catch) and the only two problems i've ever had are the locking block failing and the safety falling on, wich is due to the age of the pistol and number of rounds fired- i believe it was an italian police service pistol before i got it- some numbnuts tried to "improve " the feedramp to feed semi-wadcutters as well, and while it looks like hell( file) it worked, as it feeds anything with a slight nose on it- you can't say THAT about a lot of the 9mms out there- at least on mine, insert the mag, trip the slide release, and that slide comes forward like an express train- and i'm a full blown lefty- the heel catch mag can actually be a advantage to us, if trained how to use it
I'll trash the Beretta.
Over weight
Large grips
Exposed barrel(no need for that)
Overly complicated(67 pieces)
Locking block failures are common
Safety is in a poor location
Over priced.
Long DA trigger pull
TDC
Over weight
Large grips
Exposed barrel(no need for that)
Overly complicated(67 pieces)
Locking block failures are common
Safety is in a poor location
Over priced.
Long DA trigger pull
TDC
Gee...I feel so sorry for you, you are so f**king narrow minded. Every design has its own purpose that you newbe won't understand. I can't see the engineer that design the 92FS has less gun knowledge then you and me. In compare with those little children that armed with AK 47 and fight for their life in africa and middle east, we are all newbie and don't try to make people believe you know everything. If Glock is the only gun that you like and enjoy, then you know nothing but a gun with a trigger, it is no different with a water gun. Go out and shoot and respect all gun is the way to become a great shooter, sitting in front of the computer and waste your time serve nothing positive. Try shoot more gun and come back. don't jump on anyone who ask a simple question.
Best regards
Trigun
Last edited:
Get the sand out of your manginas boys. Not liking a guys preferred pistol is not an attack on his manhood.
Everyone who's been around probably have a list of guns they feel are over rated or unwieldy. My list includes the Glock and Beretta 92. I also understand others will love them and find them perfect.
Everyone who's been around probably have a list of guns they feel are over rated or unwieldy. My list includes the Glock and Beretta 92. I also understand others will love them and find them perfect.
I'd try the M&P9, STI GP6, and the HK P30
If you can also get a spare striker, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another no-mag-disconnect M&P9.
I wouldn't buy an M&P9 unless I also had a spare striker.
FYI, my M&P - a revision 'N' - had the redesigned striker. And I am hardly the only one who has experienced this failure with the "redesigned" striker. M.D. Charlton reported that this M&P striker issue is an on-going problem. And, clearly, there is still a widespread supply problem with replacement strikers.
x2
You are correct on both counts.
There is another variable however...some people just prefer the M&P. Today, for example, I introduced three new handgunners to the Glock 19, the M&P9, and the Ranger II. Guess which one (of the three) that all three shot best and all three strongly preferred?
The customer is never wrong.
What did I tell them?
"If you can also get a spare striker, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another no-mag-disconnect M&P9. I wouldn't buy an M&P9 unless I also had a spare striker."
Thank you for the striker, by the way (if the striker that I got from the Canadian warranty station for S&W, M.D. Charlton, was previously yours). Except for the fact that it isn't broken, it looks identical to the one that had been in the pistol. I do hope your that generosity doesn't inconvenience you later.
I am going to throw my hat into the STI GP6 camp. Just got this last week, and shot a match with it yesterday. Coming from a G17......what a difference.....mind you, I will never part with the Glock, as it just plain works, but the SA trigger on the GP6 is substantially better than the G17's mushy double action/striker fired.
The GP6 is truly ambidextrous from the factory, the only thing I upgraded on it so far is a front Fibre Optic sight.
The GP6 is truly ambidextrous from the factory, the only thing I upgraded on it so far is a front Fibre Optic sight.
The slide stop is not to be used as the primary method of loading. The low profile slide stop is designed to be unobtrusive. The P7 requires a squeeze of the grip to load as the slide stop is inaccessible during operation.
TDC
The regular slide stop can be easily exchanged for an extended slide stop - either OEM Glock or your choice of many aftermarket options - with no fitting required, in about one minute.
The extended slide stop makes a Glock much more manageable when the Glock is used in the left hand.
That said, the STI GP6, S&W M&P9, and H&K P30 clearly have the ambidextrous advantage.
