AFG vs. RVG
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Clobbersauras
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I have the MVG for my MOE hand-guard. I cut it down because I just use it to index my support hand. I use a Cadex hand stop on my VZ.
Bolivar
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If the forum sucks so bad, why do you bother to look at it? I don't think this post helps the OP answer any questions
Bolivar
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The new Magpul handstop kit will be a winner. You can configure it any way you like....
I have an AFG on my carbine now but I am not sure I like it. The angle it puts my hand on seems awkward. I have to shoot it some more to get make decision.
The handstop "looks" like it might be a better solution.
Of course if I really don't like the AFG I am going to try following TDC and Jamie's idea first.
Still, mixing and matching Magpul parts can be part of the fun.
I have an AFG on my carbine now but I am not sure I like it. The angle it puts my hand on seems awkward. I have to shoot it some more to get make decision.
The handstop "looks" like it might be a better solution.
Of course if I really don't like the AFG I am going to try following TDC and Jamie's idea first.
Still, mixing and matching Magpul parts can be part of the fun.
A benefit to Magpul's options is that they're quite inexpensive, so its not a big loss if you don't keep it.
TDC
Agreed, the new XTM Handstop panels look like they'll fit the bill
This is also a really good point... I've been meaning to pick up a handstop for a while now, but I found that the KAC handstop was too expensive for what it is, at least the Cadex one's fairly cheap, but still you don't seem to be getting much, for the price you pay.
Hopefully the Magpul one will be fairly inexpensive as well
I had the AFG-2 on my AR and didn't like it. The RVG I had on my Benelli M4 and didnt like it so it's back to factory. I'm gonna give the newest handguard a shot but I think the only winner is Magpul for their super slick marketing and my consumer weakness. It all boils down to preference and hand size i'd say.
Kampfhamster
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Tried an AFG two or three times and found it a rather stupid and useless piece of equipment.
What's the point of having one? It really does make the shooting stance really unstable.
What's the point of having one? It really does make the shooting stance really unstable.
Now if you reversed the order and put the RVG with your AR & ur AFG with your shottie you might find it more pleasureful to shoot.
I am with greentips in saying I like to use my tangodown more than my RVG & I tend to use it as a hand rest as if I was shooting pistols.
As for the AFG I find that I can cycle pumps more effectivley and also I find it more comfertable to load 12g in the tube feed magazines. As for the AFG on the AK style platforms I enjoy it because
A) It doesn't interfere with my mag changes
B) The AFG2 with my KAC sling QD mount provides me with proper grip placement for repeatable shooting form. I find it's not the koolaid but more of a personal preferance.
Just like I won't pony up for there handguard set or anything they just released for the 870. Also some of there stocks I feel are a bit of koolaid except for UBR's, CTR's & the PRS. Now there grips I realy do enjoy for the AR15 and feel that they are the most versitile grip's on the market but I still have that certain soft spot for the Hogue style of pistol grips.
Now this might be hard for some to agree with but I say to you OP. You got to try it before you relieze if it was worth to buy it.
Or if your lucky and some one at your range has one of these products you can see for yourself if it's your cup of tea. Now if your in the LMZ PM me and I will meet up with ya at a local range and you can try for your self.
ColassalEntry
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I like vertical grips. got one on my work and my personal rifle (although I hate the one on my work rifle XD)
Danimal247
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anyone have a lead on some slim handstops here in Canada?
I like the AFG on VZs.
On ARs I like a stubby vert grip. One nice thing with vert grips...you can press them into barriers for a stable shooting platform if necessary/convenient.
On ARs I like a stubby vert grip. One nice thing with vert grips...you can press them into barriers for a stable shooting platform if necessary/convenient.
Clobbersauras
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I'm not a fan of any type of vert grip. I just don't see the point to the added weight and size. I've never used an AVG, I'm sure they are light but they look a little bulky to me. I use a Cadex hand-stop and a cut down MVG on my rifles. I do like something to index my hand and allow me to put some rearward pressure to help to snug the rifle into my body. A smaller hand-stop does that job fine. I've dug both into the edge of the range bench a time or two, and they work just fine, haven't really tried it from a barrier while standing...
Some vertical grips have a little hidey hole for your weed stash (if that's your thing) or batteries or whatever, which may be useful if you don't have a dedicated bag, chest rig, whatever, for your rifle.
Some vertical grips have a little hidey hole for your weed stash (if that's your thing) or batteries or whatever, which may be useful if you don't have a dedicated bag, chest rig, whatever, for your rifle.
In the past I have often meant to throw a couple of CR123s in a vert grip, and a spare bolt in the pistol grip. I have never actually gotten around to doing it, though. Maybe the next AR will actually get this treatment.
The mini hand stops are definitely more popular now. The vert grip thing really took off after people saw M4s with KAC rails and vert grips in Iraq, and wanted to copy the look - despite the fact that the grips were really only there because of the amount of gear bolted to the rail. There was nowhere left for your forward hand to grip. People here bolted on vertical grips that were actually more of an impediment to performance than anything else, until they started using them less as broomhandle grips and more as hand stops.
Now that rails are longer and lights are smaller, and competition guns and the private training industry are hipper than the army, people are moving away from vertical grips and towards lightweight, small parts that work better for their uses. Well, that's what the competitors and trainers are moving towards, anyway. Everyone else is just moving towards whatever is featured in pictures currently being posted on gun forums.
The mini hand stops are definitely more popular now. The vert grip thing really took off after people saw M4s with KAC rails and vert grips in Iraq, and wanted to copy the look - despite the fact that the grips were really only there because of the amount of gear bolted to the rail. There was nowhere left for your forward hand to grip. People here bolted on vertical grips that were actually more of an impediment to performance than anything else, until they started using them less as broomhandle grips and more as hand stops.
Now that rails are longer and lights are smaller, and competition guns and the private training industry are hipper than the army, people are moving away from vertical grips and towards lightweight, small parts that work better for their uses. Well, that's what the competitors and trainers are moving towards, anyway. Everyone else is just moving towards whatever is featured in pictures currently being posted on gun forums.
blaxsun
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I agree. Heavy-railed systems and vertical grips are going the way of the dinosaur (at least for civilian end-use)... Systems like the KAC URX3.1 and VLTOR NSR are leading the way (PWS also has a relatively light rail setup as well).
