Africa/Alaska Dangerous Game Cartridge - Make Your Case!

Pick your favorite "Dangerous Game" Chambering!

  • 375 H&H

    Votes: 99 43.4%

  • .416 Rigby

    Votes: 50 21.9%

  • .458 Win Mag

    Votes: 39 17.1%

  • .458 Lott

    Votes: 16 7.0%

  • .404 Jeffery

    Votes: 6 2.6%

  • .450 Rigby

    Votes: 2 0.9%

  • .500 Jeffery

    Votes: 4 1.8%

  • .505 Gibbs

    Votes: 12 5.3%
  • Total voters
    228
Demonical said:
From at practical standpoint, the .375H&H is still the best dangerous game cartridge going.

I own a .416RM and a .458Lott and hopefully I can take them both to Africa some day.
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How do you like the Lott+500 grains wide open grains??:D

What is the rifle?
 
I have a CZ-550 that I bought from a sports store in Williams Lake, B.C. It was chambered in .458WM. If you are familiar with the Brno/CZ action, you know it's huge. My rifle didn't feed really well. I wanted a Lott anyway, so I had it re-chambered by David Henry. My rifle feeds much better, with the longer Lott cartridge and it is a better cartridge then the Winchester, so it's all good.

I have fired loads up to 2350fps with 510gr bullets, but I have settled on a load that shoots 2250fps MV.


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It's not really all that nice looking; very plain wood.


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My ZKK-602 .416RM
 
Hmmm... I don't see either the 9.3x64 or the .45-70 in the list. Although many African countries have a caliber restriction that obviates the 9.3, it is at least as effective as the .375 H&H, but uses a standard length action, less powder. To the .45-70, I read an article in a gun mag about a fella that took a buff with his .45-70; it went through the first buff and killed a second that was standing behind it! Speaks for itself. Downside, probably no ammo for the .45-70 in all of Africa, don't know about the 9.3. Not that I've been to the Dark Continent, but have known/know many who have, and the .375 H&H seems to be the choice for us domestics.
 
Yama said:
Hmmm... I don't see either the 9.3x64 or the .45-70 in the list. Although many African countries have a caliber restriction that obviates the 9.3, it is at least as effective as the .375 H&H, but uses a standard length action, less powder. To the .45-70, I read an article in a gun mag about a fella that took a buff with his .45-70; it went through the first buff and killed a second that was standing behind it! Speaks for itself. Downside, probably no ammo for the .45-70 in all of Africa, don't know about the 9.3. Not that I've been to the Dark Continent, but have known/know many who have, and the .375 H&H seems to be the choice for us domestics.
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IIRC, Brian Pearce used a Corbon 405gr. Penetrator (which sounded very much like a "solid" copper bullet) to kill his buffalo. He made the point that ordinary 45-70 bullets had a poor record with Buffalo and were not advised as they lacked penetration and therefore were not up to the task of killing dangerous game reliably. That was the key to his article as I recall (the Corbon bullet worked like a charm).

It's discussed in more detail here:
http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/article.cfm?magid=89&tocid=1273

Here's the original reference (you have to subscribe for access):
http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/index.cfm?magid=87
 
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Yama said:
Hmmm... I don't see either the 9.3x64 or the .45-70 in the list.
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That's because 9.3x64 rifles are rare and 45-70 technically is not legal for DG, at least in Zimbabwe. I think Brian Pearce shot the buff you referred to in RSA.

Although many African countries have a caliber restriction that obviates the 9.3, it is at least as effective as the .375 H&H, but uses a standard length action, less powder.
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The 9.3x62 is legal for DG in Zimbabwe. It's the exception to the 375 rule.

Demonical said:
BUM was that you that pointed me to that beauty!? Thanks! :agree:
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Yup, that was a few moons ago seeing as I've been gone from WL for 4 years.
 
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