Africa Questions

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a) Is february a good time?
b) Would a 7mm rem mag with 160 accubonds be ok for plains game?
c) Would you suggest plains game for the 1st trip?
d) Would a 375 H&H be sufficient for dangerous game?
e) Can you suggest any outfitters?
f) What is the approximate cost in USA dollars?
g) What proportion is airfare? Can airmiles be used?
 
Here we go again:rolleyes:

Haven't you asked most of these questions already?

For someone who claims to have all these guns and high end gear you don't seem to know #### and ask the most assinine questions.

You're not sure if a 375 is enough gun for Africa? Are you retarded?:eek:

Get off your dad's computer and go do your homework before your mom yells at you.:D
 
a) Is february a good time?
MAY WOULD BE IDEAL
b) Would a 7mm rem mag with 160 accubonds be ok for plains game?
TAD LIGHT FOR THE BIGGER LIKE ELAND
c) Would you suggest plains game for the 1st trip?
AND FOR THAT MATTER EVERY TRIP.BUFF IS BORING
d) Would a 375 H&H be sufficient for dangerous game?
NO WAY
e) Can you suggest any outfitters?
ZULULAND OUTFITTERS. TOP SHELF
f) What is the approximate cost in USA dollars?
DEPENDING ON THE ANIMALS YOU CHOOSE
g) What proportion is airfare? Can airmiles be used?

I'd just take the 375 and use it for everything short of DG
 
Here we go again:rolleyes:

Haven't you asked most of these questions already?

For someone who claims to have all these guns and high end gear you don't seem to know s**t and ask the most assinine questions.

You're not sure if a 375 is enough gun for Africa? Are you retarded?:eek:

Get off your dad's computer and go do your homework before your mom yells at you.:D

Wow did I take serious that which I shouldnt a
 
He needs something to make himself feel important. Give it too him. I had forgotten that I asked those questions here as I asked them on other boards. I should apologize for forgetting :onCrack: lol? I am very busy so Im forgettful sometimes. I know next to nothing about Africa so the questions were not at all assinine but some dont have a life and wanna be a big man on the net most likely because of other deficiencies. Wanna guess what they are?:onCrack:
I seem to recall these questions before but damn, that was a stern rebuke!
 
a) Is february a good time?
b) Would a 7mm rem mag with 160 accubonds be ok for plains game?
c) Would you suggest plains game for the 1st trip?
d) Would a 375 H&H be sufficient for dangerous game?
e) Can you suggest any outfitters?
f) What is the approximate cost in USA dollars?
g) What proportion is airfare? Can airmiles be used?


I can only respond for Tanzania for specifics.

A) Hunting season runs from June through October.

B) A 7mm magnum is an excellent flat shooting cartridge suitable for all non-dangerous plains game. The 160 gr AB should be up the task.

C) Personally no. Africa is expensive, and I think you should try to get the most bang for the buck. If you can afford an African Safari, you can afford to hunt buffalo. Buffalo are the only dangerous game available on a 10 day license. Book a buffalo hunt, then if you want an exclusive plains game hunt at a later date, do that. But I bet you won't. Dangerous game adds spice to the adventure, and African hunting is about experience. To go to Africa without dangerous game to me defeats the purpose, and I would get more out of a big horn sheep hunt.

D) A .375 is a reasonable minimum for dangerous game. It should not be considered a stopping rifle within the context of African dangerous game. It is the best choice for the client who intends to hunt with a single rifle. If I was going to take a hunting rifle and a stopping rifle, the stopping rifle would be bigger. I'm thinking in terms of a .500 NE or Jeffery, or a .505 Gibbs.

E) Try Zuka Safaris in South Africa, they have Tanzania hunting concessions.

F) The cost is largely dependent on the client and the amount of game he wishes to collect. You may purchase a 7,10,16,21 or 30 day Safari. The longer the safari, the more game you are entitled to. To get hippo, big cats, and elephant you are looking at a minimum 21 day safari. These start at about $30K, and go up rapidly from there. A substantial savings can be realized by booking a 2X1 safari, which is two clients and one PH. A 7 day safari could be a cheap as $7K, but 7 days really isn't long enough. I recommend a 10 day minimum. One thing to remember is the cost of the trophy fees. Every time you pull the trigger it will cost you money, sometimes a great deal of money. Impala, warthog and baboon, and bushpig are fairly inexpensive. Gerenuk, kudu, sitatunga, and sable are expensive. Additional expenses include accommodation prior to and after leaving the hunting camp, gratuities, fees for entering the country,

Having said that, Tanzania is probably the most expensive of all the African destinations. You could also consider the Okavango Delta in Botswana, The Rift Valley in Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Zambia, or ranch hunting in Namibia or South Africa. Zimbabwe offers the additional excitement raised by an unpopular and unstable government. When planning our trip I suggested to my PH that we might like to travel south to see Victoria Falls. He told me not to got there with anyone I cared about. Zimbabwe does have some of the best hunting bargains available though.

F) If you book ahead, and carefully plan out the trip, the airfare will be about $3000.00 which was from Winnipeg, and which should include air travel from Dar or Arusha to your hunting camp.
 
Thanks Boomer. Money is no problem but I would like to have a good idea of the tab. Buffalo sounds great.
I can only respond for Tanzania for specifics.

A) Hunting season runs from June through October.

B) A 7mm magnum is an excellent flat shooting cartridge suitable for all non-dangerous plains game. The 160 gr AB should be up the task.

C) Personally no. Africa is expensive, and I think you should try to get the most bang for the buck. If you can afford an African Safari, you can afford to hunt buffalo. Buffalo are the only dangerous game available on a 10 day license. Book a buffalo hunt, then if you want an exclusive plains game hunt at a later date, do that. But I bet you won't. Dangerous game adds spice to the adventure, and African hunting is about experience. To go to Africa without dangerous game to me defeats the purpose, and I would get more out of a big horn sheep hunt.

D) A .375 is a reasonable minimum for dangerous game. It should not be considered a stopping rifle within the context of African dangerous game. It is the best choice for the client who intends to hunt with a single rifle. If I was going to take a hunting rifle and a stopping rifle, the stopping rifle would be bigger. I'm thinking in terms of a .500 NE or Jeffery, or a .505 Gibbs.

E) Try Zuka Safaris in South Africa, they have Tanzania hunting concessions.

F) The cost is largely dependent on the client and the amount of game he wishes to collect. You may purchase a 7,10,16,21 or 30 day Safari. The longer the safari, the more game you are entitled to. To get hippo, big cats, and elephant you are looking at a minimum 21 day safari. These start at about $30K, and go up rapidly from there. A substantial savings can be realized by booking a 2X1 safari, which is two clients and one PH. A 7 day safari could be a cheap as $7K, but 7 days really isn't long enough. I recommend a 10 day minimum. One thing to remember is the cost of the trophy fees. Every time you pull the trigger it will cost you money, sometimes a great deal of money. Impala, warthog and baboon, and bushpig are fairly inexpensive. Gerenuk, kudu, sitatunga, and sable are expensive. Additional expenses include accommodation prior to and after leaving the hunting camp, gratuities, fees for entering the country,

Having said that, Tanzania is probably the most expensive of all the African destinations. You could also consider the Okavango Delta in Botswana, The Rift Valley in Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Zambia, or ranch hunting in Namibia or South Africa. Zimbabwe offers the additional excitement raised by an unpopular and unstable government. When planning our trip I suggested to my PH that we might like to travel south to see Victoria Falls. He told me not to got there with anyone I cared about. Zimbabwe does have some of the best hunting bargains available though.

F) If you book ahead, and carefully plan out the trip, the airfare will be about $3000.00 which was from Winnipeg, and which should include air travel from Dar or Arusha to your hunting camp.
 
Febuary would be ridiculously hot and most seasons are closed.

7mm mag would work for plains game.

I did just plains game with my 18 year old son on our first safari in RSA.

375 would be my choice as I don't enjoy extreme recoil..read 505 gibbs.

we hunted with www.huntersgame.co.za and had a great time and hunt.

Hunt itself which we booked in 2006 for 7 species each was $11,400 us, air fare was about 9500cdn from Ft McMurray to Joburg and back on upgraded seats, you can use airmiles buty there is no way you would get me on an airbus plane for that long a flight. I used British Airways world traveller plus and was very pleased. Taxidermy for 3 shoulder mounts, 5 euro's and a zebra rug including shipping was just over $5,000. souvenirs and misc was a few hundred, tips were $800 and diamond earing for my wife purchased at the site of the original Kimberly diamond mine was $2,000Us. Total price $27,000 cdn.
 
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Febuary would be ridiculously hot and most seasons are closed.

7mm mag would work for plains game.

I did just plains game with my 18 year old son on our first safari in RSA.

375 would be my choice as I don't enjoy extreme recoil..read 505 gibbs.

we hunted with www.huntersgame.co.za and had a great time and hunt.

Hunt itself which we booked in 2006 for 7 species each was $11,400 us, air fare was about 9500cdn from Ft McMurray to Joburg and back on upgraded seats, you can use airmiles buty there is no way you would get me on an airbus plane for that long a flight. I used British Airways world traveller plus and was very pleased. Taxidermy for 3 shoulder mounts, 5 euro's and a zebra rug including shipping was just over $5,000. souvenirs and misc was a few hundred, tips were $800 and diamond earing for my wife purchased at the site of the original Kimberly diamond mine was $2,000Us. Total price $27,000 cdn.
 
I'll share a bit about our hunt, I took three years to plan and three years to pay for it. The planning was probably the most fun of all, I talked incessantly about it here and on several other forums for two years, talked to several PH's, read everything I could find, watched African hunting video's, read every book by Wilbur Smith...lol. My first day we were driving form Joburg to Pliansberg National Park and I must have asked the PH 500 questions, this after asking him at least 500 by email. My Doctor was from South Africa and I actually hunted with his brother. The best advice Elmor(Doctor) gave me was enjoy the hunt, don't let little stuff bother me, if my Kudu is only 46 inches who cares...it's mine. Enjoy the food, enjoy the castle lager, listen to the 247 different meanings of the word Ya, take what the hunt gives you.

I spent the extra money I made living in Ft McMurray to go, If I can ever afford to go again it won't be for two(the other being my son) so for me it may very well be my only trip to Africa. My very supportive wife wants to see parts of the world in years to come and helped me pay the trip of my lifetime so that's only fair.

Enjoy it and treat it like it may the only time you go, watch the skinners and trackers work, offer to help the cook(she won't let you) , listen to your Afrikaans PH tell you they actually won the BOER war because the English eventually left, bring a carton of smokes even if you don't smoke for the skinners and trackers(you will have to open each pack and offer them individually as they won't do it for fear of offending you), bring them a souvenir from your hometown(I bought hats from Ft McMurray with bears and wolves embossed on them).

Enjoy your hunt, but more importantly enjoy the whole process. When you get back you will feel a bit empty. It was truly the experience of a lifetime for me and my son.
 
where?

Martinbns has it covered...

Febuary in Southern Africa is not a good time, I am not too sure about other regions (may be OK in TZ and northern Zam). Africa is huge and extremely diverse, so you have to be specific as to what region you will hunt in.

7mm RM is a great all rounder for African plains game, using good, heavy bullets. You can never be over gunned but you don't NEED a .375 to kill antelope (7mm is a bit light for eland but can do the job) and I owned a .375 since I was 18 although didn't really need it and sold it some year back:(!! . Your PH will be happy when you arrive with a properly loaded 7mm that you have shot for years and can shoot well from field positions, as opposed to a .338-.378 that a gun counter lurking expert said you need cause he saw a video of an impala taking 10 .375's to kill and that you have only shot from the bench off a led-sled. A .375 is a great calibre but don't feel is a requirement. I have never shot DG but stats show that in the case of buffalo that more are shot with a .375 than all others combined.

Very few hunters shoot well with .458+ cartridges and scoped .375 is very versatile. If you are sold on ele perhaps bigger is better but remember you have a PH backing you and if I was to shoot my first ele I would not hesitate to use a .375 and practice heavily, study brain shot anatomy; many eles are taken with .375's although if you plan to hunt many in your life it may be best to go .40+.

Africa has MANY more species to hunt that the big five, some of which can be great hunting (vaal rhe, bushbuck, eland etc etc) and offers a great diversity of habitats often in a small geographic area.

Airlines are the ones to ask about airmiles.

DONT be a book fanatic, just love the hunt and hunting, the way it is meant to be and you will love the campfire and tea at 5am in the bush!
 
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