African Trophy Hunting
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Here, I will shed some light.
You are completely ignorant about this topic, and when a person is completely ignorant about a topic, they should do some research prior to coming to a conclusion.
srt--- You've already made up your mind about it and have injected your opinion for all to see.
You don't want any light shed you just want someone to agree with you.
What's the point of buying that gun, ammo, boots, clothing and all that gear then piling in a truck and spending ^1.25 per litre for fuel all to kill something you can buy for 1.49 per pound?
Hunting is a personal thing and you don't need to understand or condone someone elses methods or reasons. Enjoy your style of hunting and leave others to enjoy theirs
Hunting is a personal thing and you don't need to understand or condone someone elses methods or reasons. Enjoy your style of hunting and leave others to enjoy theirs
Although it is not something I could see myself doing at this point in my life, I can understand the desire. I don't like to see elephants or giraffes killed, but that's hypocritical of me. Call it the Sesame Street effect.
Sporting is only sporting in the eye of the sporter. The sportee doesn't get the opportunity to object.
Sporting is only sporting in the eye of the sporter. The sportee doesn't get the opportunity to object.
I don't have the typing skills or the time to give this thread the the effort I should. All I can say is I love hunting, there are many great reasons to hunt and the only person you really need to justify it to is yourself..... and I hope some day I am 80 years old sipping cognac and wearing a monocle while showing my pals the 80lb elephant tusks adorning each side of my fireplace. That would be a really exciting hunt!
I might be a tad Ignorant to killing for the fun of it just to have a trophy in my room yes.....What I'm interested in are these animals hunted because they are too old to breed? are they killed for anyother reason then being a trophy?
If it is herd management like getting rid of old bulls that that no longer breed that chase off younger bulls thus dropping the population.....ect... then its great the hunter gets his trophy and the herd gets managed win win....but if its just to shoot something so you can brag then its ### I'm sorry.
Are Lions, leapords, elephants, giraffes.....ect over populated do they need to be controled in the way whitetails do?
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Thats very true what many seem unsporting to me is sporting to others and being in another counrty that maybe their form of hunting....It makes sence.
I'm not trying to say its outright horrable I really just wanted more info cause my wife was freaking out when the guy shot a lion then shot hippo followed up by saying they were off to get an elephant next.
African Safari
There are many reasons for going on an African Safari. From our North American point of view there is the romance of big game hunting. Some of us were brought up on farms and ranches and killed or helped to kill animals for food and to sell. A lot of us started shooting and hunting when we were very small children. Pitting one's self against a predator, especially one that you don't know well can be quite exhilarating. Some of us remember the first time we heard or read the word "B'wana" and were intrigued by the great white hunters that wrote and made movies about Africa.
From an African point of view there are culls to various types of animals which allow some regions to earn foreign exchange through hunting-tourism.
On the whole, hunters all over the world are more environmentally conscious than urbanites; even urbanites that hike or camp. Most hunters clean up after themselves and others. Some hunters even plant appropriate feed to help populations of their favourite game to survive from year to year.
Hunters may go for trophies, but most hunters have a deep and abiding respect for the animals they kill.
There are many reasons for going on an African Safari. From our North American point of view there is the romance of big game hunting. Some of us were brought up on farms and ranches and killed or helped to kill animals for food and to sell. A lot of us started shooting and hunting when we were very small children. Pitting one's self against a predator, especially one that you don't know well can be quite exhilarating. Some of us remember the first time we heard or read the word "B'wana" and were intrigued by the great white hunters that wrote and made movies about Africa.
From an African point of view there are culls to various types of animals which allow some regions to earn foreign exchange through hunting-tourism.
On the whole, hunters all over the world are more environmentally conscious than urbanites; even urbanites that hike or camp. Most hunters clean up after themselves and others. Some hunters even plant appropriate feed to help populations of their favourite game to survive from year to year.
Hunters may go for trophies, but most hunters have a deep and abiding respect for the animals they kill.
Thanks for your input thats the kind of response I was seeking not the ones that seem to be fishing for an arguement.
remind me not to take u out for coyote hunting or gopher shooting. Crows are ganging up, & i"ll be shooting them too.Look up conservation, the controll of a total population. That is what we do
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What? I coyote, gopher and crow hunt all of which have a purpose out site just doing it for the trophy...
I coyote hunt on my fathers and his friends farms to protect livestock
I gopher hunt to insure cows, horses and deer dont break legs in their holes
I crow hunt becuse they ravage the corn fields
conservation???? I'm sure all of the african game I have listed are not in need of population control. If that is wrong please prove it to me.....
I coyote hunt on my fathers and his friends farms to protect livestock
I gopher hunt to insure cows, horses and deer dont break legs in their holes
I crow hunt becuse they ravage the corn fields
conservation???? I'm sure all of the african game I have listed are not in need of population control. If that is wrong please prove it to me.....
I've been and now have trophies at home. We shot plains game only, no elephants or giraffes. I have a hard time with the giraffe thing, there is no trophy just a memory and 4000 lbs of protein. You know very little about african hunting if you think a PH would let anyone shoot from 1000 yards. We hunted in desert and thorngrove conditions, our longest shot was 259 at an impala that I probably walked, crawled and slid on my belly for about 3 km before shooting. My shortest shot was about 35 yards at a gemsbok. Most shots were very comparable to western hunting, between 100 and 225 yards.
All the meat, hides and even internal organs are used or sold to butcher shops, far less is wasted than here. The PH will only let you shoot mature males, in most species cows are off limits because they are breeding stock.
I went for the adventure with my son when he finished High School, it took me three years to plan and pay for and was worth the time and money. I would like to go back, but likely would shoot more plains game, and Eland, Waterbuck, Gemsbok and maybe a bigger Kudu if I found one. I have no desire to shoot a lion or elephant, much like I don't really want to shoot a grizzly or polar bear, but I certainly wouldn't be ripping guys on here who do.
All the meat, hides and even internal organs are used or sold to butcher shops, far less is wasted than here. The PH will only let you shoot mature males, in most species cows are off limits because they are breeding stock.
I went for the adventure with my son when he finished High School, it took me three years to plan and pay for and was worth the time and money. I would like to go back, but likely would shoot more plains game, and Eland, Waterbuck, Gemsbok and maybe a bigger Kudu if I found one. I have no desire to shoot a lion or elephant, much like I don't really want to shoot a grizzly or polar bear, but I certainly wouldn't be ripping guys on here who do.
What? I coyote, gopher and crow hunt all of which have a purpose out site just doing it for the trophy...
I coyote hunt on my fathers and his friends farms to protect livestock
I gopher hunt to insure cows, horses and deer dont break legs in their holes
I crow hunt becuse they ravage the corn fields
conservation???? I'm sure all of the african game I have listed are not in need of population control. If that is wrong please prove it to me.....
Elephants have to be culled in National Parks regularly, they simply eat themselves out of house and home, Zimbabwe has several thousand too many in the southern part of the country, RSA is in the same boat in Kruger National Park. Hippo's kill more african's than the rest of the big 5 put together, in general they are a menace to people that live anywhere near the water in many parts of Southern Africa.
I see well thanks for the info I am learning alot about this I agree about the giraffe thing and I also would not hunt a grizz or polar bear.....
You know I guess its just the way some of us grew up i like the "Sesame Street effect" that was mentioned above.....Africa has differnt animals then us obviously and I'm sure leapords, lions, and hippos do the same things to them as Wolves, yotes, cougers....ect do to us.....it makes sence....
I'm glad I got some good info here it has totaly changed the way I look at African hunts......Africa needs to cull certain species so its win win they get money from hunters, food for the local's and the hunter gets a memory of a life time and in some cases a trophy to take home.....sounds respectable to me...
You know I guess its just the way some of us grew up i like the "Sesame Street effect" that was mentioned above.....Africa has differnt animals then us obviously
and I'm sure leapords, lions, and hippos do the same things to them as Wolves, yotes, cougers....ect do to us.....it makes sence....I'm glad I got some good info here it has totaly changed the way I look at African hunts......Africa needs to cull certain species so its win win they get money from hunters, food for the local's and the hunter gets a memory of a life time and in some cases a trophy to take home.....sounds respectable to me...
Oh please...You come here with pre conceived ideas about "ego maniacs" and you aren't fishing for an argument?
conservation???? I'm sure all of the african game I have listed are not in need of population control. If that is wrong please prove it to me.....
Why should we prove it to you- Do a bit of research yourself.
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The fact that the game is worth money to the Africans is the only reason it continues to exist. Farms cannot exist in game rich areas and the game is a constant deadly and economic threat to the rural African. If he had his way the wild game would vanish. The urban African knows that without the game farms could flourish and his cost of food would drop. The only way the game can be protected is by making it valuable to the African. And even at that, it is a tentative existence, because meat has value and poaching is a huge industry. The cape buffalo which numbered tens of thousands in the Moyawsi just a dozen years ago has been all but wiped out by poachers using snare lines that let nothing escape.
That is not why I went to Africa. I went because I wanted the experience of hunting African game. It was my dream since childhood, and I was fortunate enough to make it happen. We hunted in true African wilderness, in the Selous Game Reserve. We had hippos and crocodile in the river across from our camp. The herds of impala, bush buck, and elephants have to be seen to be believed. We ate much of the game we shot, and that not eaten by us and not used for bait was eaten by the camp staff. I should add that after the kitchen fire on our third night in camp, game meat was pretty much all there was to eat. The cost of the trip for a working guy was intimidating, and I was not able to hunt all the species I would of liked, nor was I able to hunt for as long as I would of liked, but we went, and I have memories that will remain with me for the rest of my life.
If you are a moose hunter, do you have to travel from your home to hunt moose, or can you hunt from your door step? Should you have to travel to some other destination to hunt, then your hunting is no different than the hunter who travels to Africa, Asia, or Alaska for the experience of hunting game that is not native to his own locality. It's just a matter of the number of dollars spent.
That is not why I went to Africa. I went because I wanted the experience of hunting African game. It was my dream since childhood, and I was fortunate enough to make it happen. We hunted in true African wilderness, in the Selous Game Reserve. We had hippos and crocodile in the river across from our camp. The herds of impala, bush buck, and elephants have to be seen to be believed. We ate much of the game we shot, and that not eaten by us and not used for bait was eaten by the camp staff. I should add that after the kitchen fire on our third night in camp, game meat was pretty much all there was to eat. The cost of the trip for a working guy was intimidating, and I was not able to hunt all the species I would of liked, nor was I able to hunt for as long as I would of liked, but we went, and I have memories that will remain with me for the rest of my life.
If you are a moose hunter, do you have to travel from your home to hunt moose, or can you hunt from your door step? Should you have to travel to some other destination to hunt, then your hunting is no different than the hunter who travels to Africa, Asia, or Alaska for the experience of hunting game that is not native to his own locality. It's just a matter of the number of dollars spent.
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