Aftermarket 10/22 question

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Just curious, what options are there in Canada? I've been looking around, but it seems that there aren't many actually available. Can anybody point me in the right direction? I'm looking for the entire assembly, not just a kit.
 
Your being pretty vague... what exactly are you looking for? What "entire assembly"??? Barrel, receiver, action, bolt or are you talking about an entire aftermarket gun? If it is an entire aftermarket gun, you will be looking at Kidd, TacSol, Volquartsen, Dlask etc... which depends mostly on your budget.
 
Sorry, I was looking for a good after market trigger, such as Kidd. I tried Dlask, Joe Brooks and Wanstalls, all were sold out and unsure when more would be in. I just wondered if there were other complete trigger units that are worth looking into. I don't want to wait an unknown amount of time for a Kidd shipment to come in. I will try Questar, I forgot about them. Thanks.
 
Do you really need to drop $300ish on a trigger? Have you tried the trigger mod? I found it to be simple and drop the weight by more than half.
IMO I laugh at those selling their 1k+ rimfires. If you dropped that much on a gun, shouldnt it be an awesome gun that you wouldnt sell?
 
little_airwolf said:
Do you really need to drop $300ish on a trigger? Have you tried the trigger mod? I found it to be simple and drop the weight by more than half.
IMO I laugh at those selling their 1k+ rimfires. If you dropped that much on a gun, shouldnt it be an awesome gun that you wouldnt sell?
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All guns sell... tough for a newbie to understand but time will take care of that... of dozens of rifles I own, there are only two that won't ever sell... and that is only for sentimental reasons, not for what I put into them... its just a gun and this is just a hobby... there will always be more guns and new guns and we will always be tweaking them... that's half the fun... shooting them is the other half.
 
OP... the Volquartsen TG2000 is a nice trigger also... I have four of them and I am happy with their performance... try Fab Sports. I also have Kidd, RT, Timney and Que.
 
hoytcanon said:
All guns sell... tough for a newbie to understand but time will take care of that... of dozens of rifles I own, there are only two that won't ever sell... and that is only for sentimental reasons, not for what I put into them... its just a gun and this is just a hobby... there will always be more guns and new guns and we will always be tweaking them... that's half the fun... shooting them is the other half.
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I disagree, little_airwolf has a valid point which most don't seem to understand. The time and resources spent creating such a rifle would indicate that such rifle is ideal, perfect, or otherwise purpose built. So where does this belief that "all guns sell..?" I suspect it comes from not having any defined role or purpose for said firearm, and having little desire to improve ones abilities. I've invested significant resources into most of my firearms, and none of them are for sale. Then again, I have defined roles for all of mine.

TDC
 
TDC said:
I disagree, little_airwolf has a valid point which most don't seem to understand. The time and resources spent creating such a rifle would indicate that such rifle is ideal, perfect, or otherwise purpose built. So where does this belief that "all guns sell..?" I suspect it comes from not having any defined role or purpose for said firearm, and having little desire to improve ones abilities. I've invested significant resources into most of my firearms, and none of them are for sale. Then again, I have defined roles for all of mine.

TDC
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Everyone who builds a gun has a concept and/or purpose... who can judge another persons values... I have a friend who has built a couple dozen rifles... he doesn't shoot... he sells them all unfired... he just loves building... sometimes he gets his money back and sometimes he doesn't... but he feels it is money well spent for a pass time that he enjoys... who can say that is "wrong." For me builds are for interests sake to try out a specific goal or purpose... for many, I have a specific goal or general duration in mind... when the purpose is done the gun gets sold and I move on to the next project... and someone else gets a nice gun the easy way. This is no different than building a gun for a specific sheep hunt or African safari and then selling it when the hunt is over... the purpose of the gun is usually not indefinite... and even when the purpose remains, there is more than one way to skin a cat, and most shooters like variety... and who can say that these folks (I include myself) are not, at the same time, improving skills... not everyone who shoots is chasing "itty bitty" groups... some are plinkers, or hunters or other sorts of recreational shooters...
 
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hoytcanon said:
Everyone who builds a gun has a concept and/or purpose... who can judge another persons values... I have a friend who has built a couple dozen rifles... he doesn't shoot... he sells them all unfired... he just loves building... sometimes he gets his money back and sometimes he doesn't... but he feels it is money well spent for a pass time that he enjoys... who can say that is "wrong." For me builds are for interests sake to try out a specific goal or purpose... for many, I have a specific goal or general duration in mind... when the purpose is done the gun gets sold and I move on to the next project... and someone else gets a nice gun the easy way. This is no different than building a gun for a specific sheep hunt or African safari and then selling it when the hunt is over... the purpose of the gun is usually not indefinite... and even when the purpose remains, there is more than one way to skin a cat, and most shooters like variety... and who can say that these folks (I include myself) are not, at the same time, improving skills... not everyone who shoots is chasing "itty bitty" groups... some are plinkers, or hunters or other sorts of recreational shooters...
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Well said. :agree:
 
I'm not saying aftermarket trigger groups aren't get. I'm just saying, why not mod your own trigger and see if that works for you. Wouldn't $300+ be better spent on other things?
Yes, if your competing, any advantage is great.
 
Hoytcanon, out of the triggers you mentioned, do you have a clear favorite? Everything I've read so far points towards Kidd, but the availability doesn't seem to be there.
 
hoytcanon said:
Everyone who builds a gun has a concept and/or purpose... who can judge another persons values... I have a friend who has built a couple dozen rifles... he doesn't shoot... he sells them all unfired... he just loves building... sometimes he gets his money back and sometimes he doesn't... but he feels it is money well spent for a pass time that he enjoys... who can say that is "wrong." For me builds are for interests sake to try out a specific goal or purpose... for many, I have a specific goal or general duration in mind... when the purpose is done the gun gets sold and I move on to the next project... and someone else gets a nice gun the easy way. This is no different than building a gun for a specific sheep hunt or African safari and then selling it when the hunt is over... the purpose of the gun is usually not indefinite... and even when the purpose remains, there is more than one way to skin a cat, and most shooters like variety... and who can say that these folks (I include myself) are not, at the same time, improving skills... not everyone who shoots is chasing "itty bitty" groups... some are plinkers, or hunters or other sorts of recreational shooters...
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I don't disagree, but a person who builds then sells is not a shooter, they're a hobbyist. I doubt most here are like your friend and build as a pass time. The lack of direction and/or purpose is what drives most of the mods and sales of such gear. Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I find shooting far more entertaining and productive than assembling/building the firearm. Carpenters use their tools, they don't collect them..

TDC
 
TDC said:
I don't disagree, but a person who builds then sells is not a shooter, they're a hobbyist. I doubt most here are like your friend and build as a pass time. The lack of direction and/or purpose is what drives most of the mods and sales of such gear. Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I find shooting far more entertaining and productive than assembling/building the firearm. Carpenters use their tools, they don't collect them..

TDC
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Guns are just tools to many shooters, and as such are not collected. I count myself as such a shooter. I build, shoot and then sell and there is no gun I wouldn't sell if the price is right. Specially rimfires I have modded, I change them more than my underwear, lol.
 
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TDC said:
I don't disagree, but a person who builds then sells is not a shooter, they're a hobbyist. I doubt most here are like your friend and build as a pass time. The lack of direction and/or purpose is what drives most of the mods and sales of such gear. Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I find shooting far more entertaining and productive than assembling/building the firearm. Carpenters use their tools, they don't collect them..

TDC
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I don't think you are in touch with what drives the firearms industry... peruse the EE sometime... because there are people who are always building and tweaking, you have access to products that can enhance your experience and make you a better shooter... without the collective push of shooters ( all kinds of shooters, not just the ones who do it your way) there is a market to expand into... simple "supply & demand"... without a demand there will be no supply... rather than ridiculing those other shooters (and/or builders) why don't you thank them...

I have sold many, many builds at the range because the price was right... I moved on to something new... I have never regretted a build.
 
little_airwolf said:
I'm not saying aftermarket trigger groups aren't get. I'm just saying, why not mod your own trigger and see if that works for you. Wouldn't $300+ be better spent on other things?
Yes, if your competing, any advantage is great.
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I am betting you have never shot a really good trigger...
 
jes said:
Hoytcanon, out of the triggers you mentioned, do you have a clear favorite? Everything I've read so far points towards Kidd, but the availability doesn't seem to be there.
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Well... like you have heard the Kidd single stage is an excellent trigger... if you are building a bench gun, the Kidd is a great way to go... the RT is almost the equal of the Kidd... it is a toss-up between them really. But i do not know of a Canadian source for RT gear. The VQ TG2000 is my favorite hunting trigger... adjusted to 1.5-2 pounds the break is very crisp and clean, no hanging up or creep... many hundreds of squirrels and hares have cursed my TG2000's... ;)

Another good way to go, is to send your factory TG down to David at Brimstone... a few years ago he and I worked out a Canadian special of the Tier 1 job for $99... as far as I know he still honors that deal... David is a 10/22 TG wizard... he will add the VQ sear and RT trigger shoe as part of the service... I have a half dozen Brimstone trigger and am very happy with them.
 
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