Aftermarket M&P Parts

[Canuck44]

" dunno know about you guys but I cant seem to chamber a round and then drop the mag and then install a full mag..... A full mag will not "click in" unless the action is open on my M&P."

No problem loading a full mag into the gun with one in the chamber with my M&P 9. In IDPA it is the way you must start. Work those mag springs a bit. Your gun should load with one in the chamber and 10 in the mag. Might be worth taking your mag apart and making sure the mag spring isn't caught up in the follower or base.

The M&P was never designed as a PPC gun. It is also true PPC was never designed to reflect real life scenarios. I am not sure where the connection is with the performance of mags dropping on cement and the guns ability as a duty gun. What am I missing? A broken mag base in a real life shoot out would be the least of an officers worries I would think.

Take Care

Bob

 

[John in B.C.]

I dunno know about you guys but I cant seem to chamber a round and then drop the mag and then install a full mag..... A full mag will not "click in" unless the action is open on my M&P

When my M&P was new out of the box it was a little stiff but over time it loosened up.

That is how I started smacking the mag in -and discovered the auto slide release - to ensure seating the fresh mag. Now the mags slip in easy as pie. I suspected stiff mag springs. When new I loaded all my mags and stored them loaded for a few weeks and I think that helped.

John

 

[Wendell]

Worries? An empty gun - in a gunfight - would be TOP of my list.

I am not sure where the conenction is with the performance of mags dropping on cement and the guns ability as a duty gun. What am I missing? A broken mag base in a real life shoot out would be the least of an officers worries I would think.

I can't believe that you would say that.

What about a scenario that had an officer rolling around on the ground with an assailant, or a scenario where an officer went to ground quickly, and the magazine received a blow to it's base? It would be nice to have a bottom on your magazine when you are about to shoot, IMO.

I recall an advertisement for Ram-Line magazines where a police officer reported this exact situation happening with a Ram-Line magazine on his 5906. (This police officer credited Ram-Line's proprietary spring design with successfully retaining his ammunition and thus allowing him to continue, survive (and win) the fight.) Most magazines, upon failure of a floorplate, would expel the ammunition out the bottom. I have had my P16 dump it's rounds in such a fashion - albeit at the range, thankfully - and I never want to experience it again. Another CGN has reported (10rd .45) USP floorplate failure when dropped.

A duty handgun should be built (or over-built) to ensure reliability. This should include the magazine, including the magazine's floorplate. All these abusive situations should be anticipated, and, with this in mind, this life-saving equipment should be built to tolerate it.

No matter what.

 

[Canuck44]

"Worries? An empty gun - in a gunfight - would be TOP of my list."

One presumes the officer dropped the empty mag on the ground so he could insert a new mag. In the absence of a fresh mag he is indeed in a world of hurt.

As to your rolling around comment perhaps S&W are not blessed with your imagination as to what might happen. You should write them with your concerns.

Take Care

Bob

 

[kevschm]

PPC duty gun course of fire is what they bascaly use for qualification (some version) most of it is to make sure your not to fat or out of shape to get from standing to your knees and back up again which seems difficult for some people. MP was not designed for PPC it was design for police officers etc. and PPC was based off there qualifications shoots.

Any one run it in a ransom?

and what are you guys throwin out the end (FMJ, Conicals, LRN, SWC, etc)

 

[NaStY5000]

I was hoping to purchase an 9mm barrel for my 40

 

[ian_in_vic]

Problem now is that it has a tendancy to ligh-strike the primer. I'm using Winchester small pistol, so that's not the issue. And you can tell that the primer strikes lack "oomph". I was using it for PPC courses and outta 150 rounds, I'll get 5-6 failures to go bang.
Any suggestions?

Change out your striker assembly? They do wear (though I've got close to 5,000 rounds on my first one and it'll still pop crimped in military primers.) As far as barrels go Storm Lake makes M&P match barrels. There is a rumour that oversize match barrels will be available soon from 2 suppliers. Dan Burwell does custom work (for those who are interested). As far as the trigger goes, someone who would know much better than me told me to "just shoot it, you'll be amazed" and he was right, he usually is. Lots of suppliers advertise on mp-pistol.com. MD Charlton is great for spares ( magazines, recoil spring assemblies and strikers).

 

[kevschm]

Might try federal primers there pretty soft

 

[notsorichguy]

Nasty 5000 ......There are 9mm conversion kits from S&W for the M&P40, or a barrel is cheaper....

this is just the barrel.
ht tp://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=150824

This is the whole slide assy... (too much $$$)
ht tp://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=312342

This web site is in the states.... I would call ahead to see if they will ship to CA, regardless you will need to keep it under $100.00..... You can take the 9mm barrel and put it in your .40 and it will work, you will need a 9mm mag tho, as you will have to "modify" the feed lips in your .40 mags to feed 9mm..... that makes it illegal as you can fit more than 10rnds of 9mm in a .40 mag.

 

[peter2772000]

I don't think I have more than mebbe 1500 rounds under the M&P's belt to date. Definitely not enuf to warrant replacing the striker assembly, in my humble opinion.

I did notice that the fit of the striker is more tight than loose in the bore, even though both are clean. So either a polishing of the firing pin bore or the exterior of the striker assembly might help. Though maybe I'd rather have a stronger spring so as to eliminate any chances of this happening again.

At my PPC competition last Friday, I "only" had one misfire in 150 rounds. One too many, but better than 4-5...

Change out your striker assembly? They do wear (though I've got close to 5,000 rounds on my first one and it'll still pop crimped in military primers).

 

[peter2772000]

Me too. A full 10 rounder is hard to impossible to load with a closed slide with the M&P as well as my P-99, both are .40.

As far as the "auto slide-release, it'd be great if it did it every time. But it doesn't, not on mine. I sincerely doubt that the engineers had this function in mind when they designed/built this gun.

hmmmm I thought the "slapping" in of the mag causing the slide to close was a "design feature" as opposed to a design flaw....... I find it handy when doing tactical shoots! Those mag changes are quicker that way for sure!

I dunno know about you guys but I cant seem to chamber a round and then drop the mag and then install a full mag..... A full mag will not "click in" unless the action is open on my M&P........

Is this normal or am I the only one??