Aguila Sniper .22 SSS

I don't know if the US law allows us Canadians to bring back rimfire ammunition.
I will contact the Border Bandit in Hyder Alaska and find out.
Will let you know what the border bandit tells me.
Hopefully things will work out.
 
You really need to read the sticky's around the various forums, regarding legally importing parts and ammunition from the US. Two sets of laws to be VERY aware of.

Getting stuff IN to Canada is easy. They want their cut (Taxes) and that's about it. That is generally what the Canadian side of the story is.

Getting caught in possession of ammunition on the US side of the border as a non-resident and an alien, is a whole 'nuther ball o' not very fun. Best case scenario gets you transported or (if really doing well) escorted to the border, and you get added to the list of folks that don't get to visit or overfly any more. Jail, lawyers, and a bunch of unhappiness, plus becoming persona non grata, at the other end of the scale.

Read and understand both sets of rules and regs. Just because some guy says it's OK (or isn't, like me, for that matter) on the web, really should not carry much weight. Neither should what the guy at the border says, unless it's the guy checking your bags. Follow the links, read the regs and laws. Educate yourself. At least then you can't say you didn't know, when you get caught doing something you shouldn't have been.

Cheers
Trev
 
The border bandit is a firearms dealer in Alaska he is within 300 feet of the border.
They are a reputable business and they know firsthand what US laws are.
I am a honest person and I would never attempt smuggling anything in or out of any country.
People tend to get carried away on these forums.
I was only asking if anybody knows of a source for those sniper sss in Canada.
 
I was hoping that there was an exemption for rimfire ammunition but sadly I was wrong.
Turns out it is one of those gray areas but definitely not worth pursuing.
 
carverk said:
The border bandit is a firearms dealer in Alaska he is within 300 feet of the border.
They are a reputable business and they know firsthand what US laws are.
I am a honest person and I would never attempt smuggling anything in or out of any country.
People tend to get carried away on these forums.
I was only asking if anybody knows of a source for those sniper sss in Canada.
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Here's the real issue.

Only recently maybe (see below) cleared into Canada.Made in Mexico. Distributed solely in North America, by an outfit that can sell all they can get in the US of A. Meaning that the Canadian Distributor has to buy from the US one...that doesn't really need the business...
Per CanAm's post, a distributorship would suggest that an effort was being made to clear this past the folks at nrcan.gc.ca, which cost a fair bit. Suposedly on the order of $20K for each cartridge, per a post by Marstar (IIRC) a while back.

So. How common do you think the stuff is ever gonna be?

Don't lose any sleep waiting to find some.

Want quiet? Buy some Rem Subsonics, or CB longs. Or learn how to cast and load some heavier bullets in a hornet or .223, and shoot them slow.

Anyway. Read 'em and weep, then get on with what you can actually get.

I still think we need a sticky on the SSS ammo. Maybe it'd save going through this every couple weeks.

Cheers
Trev
 
Well Trevj - My most recent understanding as per the FA was we could import ammunition (5000 rnds - I beleive) I was also told this from a local Gun/Hunting Store - maybe the US export laws are new(er), so your input is much appreciated, no one wants to do 'hard time' at Singh Singh for .22 ammo

The bright side of all this is 2 things;
1). Lots of interest in the Aguila SSS - maybe a Canadian Importer will see all the posts and bring some in.
2). You seem pretty knowledgeable on all this export/import stuff so we will PM you for bail and legal council! And at the very least; maybe you could send us some honemade bananna bread that we could use as a form of currency in jail.

LoL
 
Better pay real close attention to WHO is telling you WHAT, in relation to WHO's laws.

Canada allows you to import ammo. No big deal. The US does not allow you to EXPORT it or possess it (with a few exceptions for hunters, and Target Competitors). Carrying it out of the US is exporting it. You need a permit. You cannot get a permit unless you are a US Citizen. That's the one that'll getcha in the ass. Waving around Canadian rules, when you are in the US is gonna get you laughed at. And still in trouble.

Don't call me. Call a Lawyer. Hope you never need to. All you'll get from me is laughed at for being stupid. Maybe an inquiry as to what good stuff is being sold to finance your legal bills. No sympathy.

I'm really trying to do two things. One is to warn off the stupid, from doing stupid things, the other is to make it plain that, if you have not read the laws that apply on both sides, you could find yourself in a world of hurt. Maybe the next guy that is looking for some SSS will do a search (and have it work) and find this post, and save himself the trouble.

As to the likelihood of SSS being brought in in qty., I'd suggest it's pretty slim, if at all. Guys will not continue paying a lot for ammo that does not shoot well. Look at the perpetual whining that goes on about the Ruger 10/22, if you want to see what the internet complaints dept. looks like.

I know one or two fellas that have had some and shot it, and posted the results here. If you were shooting a silenced AR, with a rimfire adapter, and a faster twist barrel, it might be worthwhile. Otherwise, it's not money well spent.

But it MUST be better, because we can't get it here, right? Not so much.

Cheers
Trev
 
It is against the law and definitely not worth it!
It would be foolish to get into trouble over ammunition.
I am going to buy Canadian.
Maybe eventually somebody will start importing here but till then I'm out!
 
You are all missing a very important piece of legislation called the Explosives Act. THAT is what regulates the importation of ammunition, not the Firearms Act.

Long story short, if it does not appear on this list you are not allowed to import it, period. The "personal exemption" applies ONLY to the quantity which you may import without requiring a General or Annual Explosives Import Permit, which is 5,000 rounds.

And as others have already stated, getting it OUT of the United States is another ball game altogether.
 
trevj said:
Better pay real close attention to WHO is telling you WHAT, in relation to WHO's laws.

Canada allows you to import ammo. No big deal. The US does not allow you to EXPORT it or possess it (with a few exceptions for hunters, and Target Competitors). Carrying it out of the US is exporting it. You need a permit. You cannot get a permit unless you are a US Citizen. That's the one that'll getcha in the ass. Waving around Canadian rules, when you are in the US is gonna get you laughed at. And still in trouble.

Cheers
Trev
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Yup, there is a difference between US EXPORT and Canadian IMPORT. US export of firearms and ammo is controlled by the US State Department, so don't ask US Border Patrol, or the ATF for answers.

Just to add, the US Export permit is in 2 parts. An annual registration for the exporter, that is (was) around $2800, and then an individual permit for your specific export, around $200, plus a % of the cost of goods.

In addition the manufacturer of the goods ALSO has to have the annual export permit.

The US export process (and penalties) isn't much different for ammo or for firearms.

Oh and if you are caught by a US export check (yes they do have random checks) one common result is that you will be banned from entering the US, and will also be added to their no-fly list.
 
The Canadian Gov't doesn't protest for us sportsmen wishing to buy cheap US ammo as they really don't want it in the country to start with.................simple illogical logic.......Harold
 
mbogo3 said:
The Canadian Gov't doesn't protest for us sportsmen wishing to buy cheap US ammo as they really don't want it in the country to start with.................simple illogical logic.......Harold
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its not exactly cheap at $37.99 a brick.....

trevj - so no bananna bread for the incarcerated or the stupid?

Ruger Complaints Dept? Never heard of it cause I love mine....
 
The Canadian goverment doesn't give a hoot, about what US ammo is brought into the country! It all has to do with US Federal laws on export of ammo by indivdual aliens(this us Canadians)!
The NAFTA only goes one way, the US taking goods out of Canada, not us taking product out of the US! Dale Z!
 
zywina said:
The Canadian goverment doesn't give a hoot, about what US ammo is brought into the country! It all has to do with US Federal laws on export of ammo by indivdual aliens(this us Canadians)!
The NAFTA only goes one way, the US taking goods out of Canada, not us taking product out of the US! Dale Z!
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Geez, Dale,

That whole post is so full of wilful ignorance and fail.

Plus it is simply wrong.

Educate yourself before you yip. Please. You'll have less to yip about when you have some idea what you are talking about.

You don't have to like NAFTA, but at least you could spend six minutes or so to learn what it was supposed to be about, rather than spewing about things it never was meant to be. It had nothing to do with taking down the borders and allowing all things to cross without control. Nor is NAFTA the only hing that affects goods being exported or imported.

There should be somewhere on line, where it is explained in small enough words.

Yeesh.

Trev
 
It is obvious there is no legitimate way to get the sniper SSS ammo into Canada.
We may not like it but we have to respect US laws.
Throwing insults back and forth amongst ourselves is pointless.
Where I live it is very isolated and at times difficult to find ammunition.
So asking if anybody knows where to find a particular ammunition seems like a legitimate request.
I wish they would close this post because it has nothing to do with politics or name-calling.
 
I've had a brick,shot it and was disappointed.It wasn't very consistent in my Savage BV or a couple of others.Some rounds were unbelievable for accuracy but others in the same box would group like birdshot.I'm shooting some Supermax hyper velocity now but am not sold on that either.
 
God I love CGN! there is no better place for firearms knowledge, experience and attitude! If you can wether the attitude, you just might learn something, once you get through all the worthless stuff......
 
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