AIA Enfield mags - Here in 2014 **ACCEPTING PRE-ORDERS**

I must be missing something here. Although there is no limit in bolt rifles. How does that get around this part of the regs http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-462/page-2.html#sched1

To be specific, the part that says you can't have more than a 10rd mag for a Lee Enfield rifle.

3. (1) Any cartridge magazine

(a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in

(i) a semi-automatic handgun that is not commonly available in Canada,

(ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,

(iii) an automatic firearm whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger,

(iv) the firearms of the designs commonly known as the Ingram M10 and M11 pistols, and any variants or modified versions of them, including the Cobray M10 and M11 pistols, the RPB M10, M11 and SM11 pistols and the SWD M10, M11, SM10 and SM11 pistols,

(v) the firearm of the design commonly known as the Partisan Avenger Auto Pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, or

(vi) the firearm of the design commonly known as the UZI pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Micro-UZI pistol; or

(b) that is capable of containing more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada.

(2) Paragraph (1)(a) does not include any cartridge magazine that

(a) was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that

(i) is chambered for, or designed to use, rimfire cartridges,

(ii) is a rifle of the type commonly known as the “Lee Enfield” rifle, where the magazine is capable of containing not more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed, or

I am not a Troll or trying to stir the pot. I just want to know how were getting away with a 20rd mag in an Enfield.

Moe

How did they get around this limit with the Indian Ishapore 7.62x51mm/308 Win SMLE Lee Enfield's which hold 12 rounds in their mags? these rifles have been okay with 12 rounds for years, have they not?
 
Nothing in this provision would prevent legal ownership of a 20/20 AIA magazine. Section 3(1) contains a list of prohibitions. If the item is not prohibited by s. 3(1), then it is permitted. Section 3(2) is a list of exemptions from prohibition under s. 3(1). Since the AIA mag is for a bolt action rifle, it is not prohibited by s. 3(1), and therefore, section 3(2) is entirely inapplicable.

The provision about Lee Enfield magazines was included so that there was absolute certainty that the standard 10 round Lee Enfield Magazine is not prohibited. When the legislation was drafted there was a lot of uncertainty about how it would be interpreted. Someone raised the possibility of a Lee Enfield mag working in a very rare rifle that was full auto. To eliminate any doubt, the provision was included.

So, NR Magazine, will the AIA mags be 20/20 or 10/20?

Speaking as a lawyer with a 25+ year interest in Canada's firearms laws, that is a nice, succinct and extremely accurate summation of the entire issue.

The "exemption" for 10-round Lee Enfield mags was put in s.3(2), because when the regulation was first being put in place, someone very kindly pointed out that there had been an extremely rare prototype rifle created in 1942 or thereabouts called, I believe, the Charlton. The Charlton was a complex adaptation of a Lee Enfield bolt action rifle into a full auto machine gun (of sorts). The NFA at the time pointed out that, because there HAD been a prototype created once that was a full-auto Lee Enfield and that therefore used Lee Enfield magazines, the 10-round magazines that existed by the millions to fit in the millions of sporterized Lee Enfields used at the time by at least half the hunters in Canada - including just about every single Indian or Inuit subsistence hunter or trapper in the country - COULD potentially be interpreted to be "prohibited".

So, to avoid this problem, when the exemptions were being drafted, they slapped in a rather badly-worded last-minute addition to cover the Lee Enfield magazines.

Of course, since the AIA is completely different than the model that was modified to become the Charlton - and a standard .303 Lee Enfield magazine like the ones used in the Charlton prototype are neither designed to fit in an AIA nor will fit in an AIA in fact ... we don't really need to even concern anybody's pretty little heads with this purported problem, do we?
 
I will take one or two 20 rounders with some sort of RCMP approval. As has been explained before they would not need to be limited at 10 because no bolt action rifle mags are banned in 3)1. the fact that the exemption in 3)2. mentions the Lee Enfield has no relevance to the legality of magazines that were designed and manufactured for a Lee Enfield style bolt action rifle.
 
I will take one or two 20 rounders with some sort of RCMP approval. As has been explained before they would not need to be limited at 10 because no bolt action rifle mags are banned in 3)1. the fact that the exemption in 3)2. mentions the Lee Enfield has no relevance to the legality of magazines that were designed and manufactured for a Lee Enfield style bolt action rifle.

Okay...I was waiting for a plain language translation of the legalese. I'll take a couple 20 rounders if this is the case. The mad minute can now be the mad two minutes.
 
The exemption to allow 10 rounds is the result of an obscure FA that took the same mags. This allowed you to have ten round LE mags unpinned for use in the rifle.
The only hitch I see is if they rule the AIA to be a LE varient.
Even though the mags aren't interchangeable. They won't willingly let us have 20 rd mags for use in our M14's without a fight. Even if doesn't make legal sense.
 
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