AIA Issues

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I bought a used AIA on EE last week. The first range test produced tall groups, suggesting a bedding issue. I also noticed that the 168 gr bullets shot 4 minutes higher than the 155 gr bullets at 300 yards. I would have expected the 168s to shoot slighter lower, not a lot higher. Again, this suggests a lot of barrel whip.

Sure enough, when I gave the muzzle the thumb tests, to see how much pressure it took to push the barrel off the wood, I found the barrel just flopping around in the barrel channel. It was sort of free floating. I say “sort of” because the barrel seemed to be touching the left side of the channel.

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I made the decision to bed the rifle. First step was to take it apart. It comes apart just like any other #4Mk2. The long skinny cross screw above and behind the trigger has to come out. This goes right through the wood and has to be removed so the wood will come off.

Some things I noticed. It is a very well made, well finished and solid rifle. It has a hung trigger. That is, the trigger is on the frame, not the trigger guard.

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The barrel is screwed into the receiver using a Savage type nut. This means it would be real easy to take any old target rifle barrel, cut new threads and chamber and screw it in. No shoulder required. Or, just like a Savage, I bet you could use a shoulder and install it conventionally.

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The mechanism that takes the M14 mag appears to be a separate assembly installed in the receiver. It is not obvious to me how it is held in place.

The top wood guard is one piece (not 2 pieces, like a #4) and is held in place by clips on the barrel and the front band. This would seem to make the barrel incompatible with free floating, because the wood is attached to the barrel, but is not floating with it.

The front sight assembly screws onto the barrel, once the two clamping screws on the bottom are backed off. It has to be oriented vertical by eye.

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The bedding is like a #4, on the wood. No epoxy. It looks like the intent was to have no contact with the barrel from the barrel nut forward. However, I see the faint imprint of the nut in the wood, and the barrel does touch the side of the wood at the tip.

My plan is to bed the flats around the king screw, the draws and to relieve the wood a bit under the nut and near the muzzle. I will then bed it to have some contact under the barrel, near the muzzle, with about 5 pounds of down pressure on the wood, so the barrel does not flop around.

I still have ammo in the boxes I shot the first test with, so should be able to do a “before” and “after” picture.

Stay tuned.
 
Curious to see how this works out. My barrel is floated the whole way down the channel minus the sontact with the handguard. I've been getting stellar accuracy thus far. Are you sure that the stock is not warped at all causing it to touch the side?
 
Sounds like whoever previously owned it has been playing around with the barrel or furniture. Look forward to seeing how everything works for you after you bed it.
I love mine, and have not noticed any problems with the floating barrel.
 
Thanks. I keep hearing good things about them. The forend might be warped. In fact, I guess it has to be warped. I doubt the barrel is bent.

Can you put some numbers on your adjectives? What kind of groups should I get with match ammo?

I will probably get it bedded tonight and will shoot it this week behind the house on the 100 yard range. That will be good enough to tell me if it improved.
 
I have 2x7 32mil Bussnell scope on mine, 100m with inexpensive federal or winchester ammo I'm normaly will do 1.25 inch groups
 
With SMK's over H4895 I was getting these groups at 100 yards, the ones on the right are the tightest, but have a flier in each that I cannot account for(shooter error probably). All groups are 5 shots off sandbags.

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I had one that shot really well, but needed a tiny bit of sanding in the barrel channel to properly float the barrel.

By the way, heavier bullets very often shoot higher than lighter ones, due to longer barrel time. Four inches higher at 100 doesn't sound at all unreasonable.

John
 
It was 4" hi at 300, so I guess that sounds even more reasonable. Might test today.

One thing I did notice was that there was almost full contact between wood and barrel nut and the inch of barrel forward of the nut. I dremmeled this wood away and Presto! the barrel was no longer off to one side of the channel. So wood is not warped, just subject to side pressure at the receiver end.

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I did not float the barrel. In my experience the rifle will be more forgiving with a little up pressure near the muzzle. If I don't like the first rsult I can add some tape to increase the up pressure and if that does not work iIcan cut the Devcon off and let it float.
 
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