AIA mags?

This debate has come up on here before.

The manufacturers's website freely admits that they dis not design a new magazine, they designed the updated 308 Enfield specifically to use an M 14 mag...they also specifically designed the 7.62x39 Enfield to take a AK mag.

So unless the gun's maker is lying...it's a 10 rd M14 mag.
 
effinggoof said:
This debate has come up on here before.

The manufacturers's website freely admits that they dis not design a new magazine, they designed the updated 308 Enfield specifically to use an M 14 mag...they also specifically designed the 7.62x39 Enfield to take a AK mag.

So unless the gun's maker is lying...it's a 10 rd M14 mag.
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It's obviously not, or it would have to be pinned.
 
"Style" is not the same as identical. They are physically not the same as mags produced for M14 rifles. They lack the spring guide hole and have a differently shaped rear latch.
 
im just putting this out there but in the late forties there was this thing called Nato, and the wanted the allied nations to use common caliber weapons. if you would care to read about google it. try taking a FAL mag, M14/M1A, or any other 7.62X51mm Nato chambered rifle and see how closely they resemble each other, there is a reason they all look simillar
 
Stevo said:
"Style" is not the same as identical. They are physically not the same as mags produced for M14 rifles. They lack the spring guide hole and have a differently shaped rear latch.
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Well, the manufacturer says it's an M14 style mag, and its functionally compatible with M14 style rifles.

On this page, the manufacturer says its a US made M14 type mag.

http://www.australianinternationalarms.com.au/history.htm

You guys are all adults, you all can read and think for yourselves and decide if you want to roll the dice on this one...but it's hardly as cut and dried as you think.
 
What dice are we rolling? Are you saying it's illegal to use a bolt gun mag in a semi?

Are you saying Marstar and Wolverine are selling prohibited devices? State you claim and stop talking in cliches.
 
Stevo said:
What dice are we rolling? Are you saying it's illegal to use a bolt gun mag in a semi?

Are you saying Marstar and Wolverine are selling prohibited devices? State you claim and stop talking in cliches.
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I am saying that that magazine is an M 14 ( style) magazine and that if you are ever busted for having a 10 rd M14 style magazine in your M14 style rifle, you are on far shakier legal ground than you think.

I think that the manufacturer makes it clear that this mag is not a propriatary design, it's an M14 style mag that they bought from a US manufacturer and adapted an Enfield to use it.

You ask if it's illegal to use a boltgun mag in a semi...I say that it's a semi mag that happens to fit a boltgun.

I am going to err on the side of caution and not use these mags.

Personally, I hope that you are right, and I am wrong and that I can use a 10 rd mag in my M305 without risk. But I ain't betting on it.
 
>And that argument works both ways.

Sure, but in the end a judge gets to decide which argument is right.

Its not like you're going to say in court: 'well, its debateable...' and then the judge is going to say: 'oh, its debateable, well in that case, I can't make a decision so we'll have to vacate the charges!'

No, he (or she) is going to listen to both arguments and then pick one. Given the current state of the judiciary, I'm not going to bet on your argument with my liberty.

If it works without modification, and is clearly identified as a magazine for an A1A bolt action rifle, then you're golden. If you have to modify the magazine, then you run a risk involving a cellmate named Bubba, who has taken a real shine to you.
 
effinggoof said:
I am saying that that magazine is an M 14 ( style) magazine and that if you are ever busted for having a 10 rd M14 style magazine in your M14 style rifle, you are on far shakier legal ground than you think.

I think that the manufacturer makes it clear that this mag is not a propriatary design, it's an M14 style mag that they bought from a US manufacturer and adapted an Enfield to use it.

You ask if it's illegal to use a boltgun mag in a semi...I say that it's a semi mag that happens to fit a boltgun.

I am going to err on the side of caution and not use these mags.

Personally, I hope that you are right, and I am wrong and that I can use a 10 rd mag in my M305 without risk. But I ain't betting on it.
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So yes, you are saying that Wolverine and Marstar have been selling prohibited devices for several years now.

In fact, the manufacturer used to say that the magazines "fit no other guns."

Marstar even says: "AIA M10 7.62x51mm 10 round magazine

Genuine Australian International Arms mfg. 10 round magazine designed for use in all AIA M10 B series rifles chambered for 7.62x51mm NATO. Competition grade hard chromed follower for enhanced smoothness and reliability. Will not fit in any other rifles. "

I'm not sure where on the AIA site it straight out says that they are M14 mags? Because they sure don't look like M14 mags when you see one in person.
 
The Enfield is specifically listed as an 'exception' to the round limit, but for no good reason. All bolt action centrefire rifles have no magazine limit.
 
Consider buying an AIA rifle - they are really nice - and if the mags are truly interchangeable you have the best of both: a ten rounder for the M305 (providing it is legal to use and I offer no opinion on that issue) and a pinned to 5 from the M305 that you can use in the AIA for hunting.
 
I have an AIA with 2 mags, and 2 Norc M14's with a total of 6 or 7 mags.

I have tried every mix of guns and mags without success.

From my experience, the M14 mags will not fit properly in the AIA, nor will the AIA mags fit in either M14. I have not drilled any holes, but that is not the only difference - the catch on the mags is a totally different shape.

The only thing that is the same is the shape, size and colour. Sure they could probably be made to work, but ...

If I'm missing something, let me know.

JB
 
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