AIA pics - courtesy of feral99!
- Thread starter Jeff/1911
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any idea on the MSRP in CA$?
Cocked&Locked
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!? It looks like an enfield but what have they done to it? Is that chambered in 7.62X39? If so, I'm intriged as well, who will be selling them?
There is two threads about this rifle under the hunting and sporting rifle catagories. The one on the 7.62mm NATO version was started by someone else, so if ya wanna know more, go have a look.
I have a 7.62 x 39mm one here, AKA the M10A2 carbine.
More info, and some of your questions may be answered.
Cheers,
Wes
I have a 7.62 x 39mm one here, AKA the M10A2 carbine.
More info, and some of your questions may be answered.
Cheers,
Wes
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I don't see a bayonet lug on the rifle length one. Dang.
maple_leaf_eh
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""This rifle uses all new components, at no point are any military surplus items used to make up the rifle. The metalwork wears a Parkerised finish."" from the review and quoted above.
The Rangers insist on the Lee Enfield because in their opinion there is simply no alternative. That is why the CF has had to go back to the World surplus market at least once recently to buy a few thousand more rifles. But eventually even these guns will have to be replaced. Which means the inventory of parts that has been gathered and regathered will be superfluous.
If the AIA rifle is taken on, an entirely new parts inventory and distribution system will be needed. Is it wise to buy a rifle that does not take advantage of that resource, albeit diminishing?
The Rangers insist on the Lee Enfield because in their opinion there is simply no alternative. That is why the CF has had to go back to the World surplus market at least once recently to buy a few thousand more rifles. But eventually even these guns will have to be replaced. Which means the inventory of parts that has been gathered and regathered will be superfluous.
If the AIA rifle is taken on, an entirely new parts inventory and distribution system will be needed. Is it wise to buy a rifle that does not take advantage of that resource, albeit diminishing?
P0WERWAGON
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are you serious that the CF has recently bought Lee Enfield rifles to arm themselves?
maple_leaf_eh said:
The majority of No4 parts interchange with the rifle, shy of the obvious, such as the complete bbl and front sight, the wooden forestock, etc. But the complete butt assembly, the inner bits, including the bolt (shy bolt head) are goers.
However, I would imagine if this rifle was adopted, for warranty reasons, and OHS duty of care, new AIA parts would have to be used. That makes sense.
As for all those No4 parts, these would no doubt be sold off as scrap, as the days of the gov't selling weapons parts are long gone, and it would not be the first time.
Ever wonder what happened to all the FN C1/C2 parts, C1/C5 GPMG parts, and any other stuff in a similar nature? So it would not be the first time.
I would also imagine the parts for the Longbranch No4 .303 are not as stockpiled as one thinks.
To maintain a fleet of say 2,500 rifles and related spare parts for example, would be no big deal for either EME or the LOG lads in the supply side of the house.
I had never heard of the CF or Govt procurers going out and purchasing 'surplus' No4 .303 rifles, and if they did/are, I hope they were the Longbranch'.
My thoughts anyways.
Regards,
Wes
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I would have thought that the availability of new parts, the fact the action is more similar than dissimilar to the Enfield (albeit stronger) and the fact that you can drop an entire caliber from the inventory would be mitigating factors.
If the army really was interested in switching calibers then I think that they would have done it when Longbranch was making 7.62 versions decades ago. For that matter, if they want to do it now then they would be better off buying the old Indian 7.62 versions instead of this bastardized abortion of a rifle.
maple_leaf_eh
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Switching cartridges
Ahem, calibre is the diameter of the bore not the shape of the chamber.
The CF is full of big ideas these days, but no one is suggesting that replacing the Rangers' rifles is up the procurement list alongside strategic airlift, SAR aircraft, UAVs, body armour and mineproofed vehicles. There isn't much of an incremental saving by switching to 7.62 SP vs the current infrequent batch buys of .303BR SP from IVI.
As for buying old rifles, I dare say the weapons techs chose as good rifles as they could and a low-mileage MkII FAZ was a better choice than a well-used Ishapore.
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Ahem, calibre is the diameter of the bore not the shape of the chamber.
The CF is full of big ideas these days, but no one is suggesting that replacing the Rangers' rifles is up the procurement list alongside strategic airlift, SAR aircraft, UAVs, body armour and mineproofed vehicles. There isn't much of an incremental saving by switching to 7.62 SP vs the current infrequent batch buys of .303BR SP from IVI.
As for buying old rifles, I dare say the weapons techs chose as good rifles as they could and a low-mileage MkII FAZ was a better choice than a well-used Ishapore.
