AICS Mag Question
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358Rooster
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That's better Sunray! At least you're trying to provide answers with some substance now. Way to go buddy!
Yeah!
I built a .284 on a long action 700 and am using the same mag. The .284 cartridge, being a larger diameter than the Swede, works fairly well in that magazine but any smaller and you would have problems. The feed lips would have to be tweaked a little to keep the cartridge a bit lower. As it is, the rim of that .284 just barely catches the rear of the mag.
I wouldn't hesitate to use it, just know that it'll require a little hand work, that's all.
Rooster
Yeah!I built a .284 on a long action 700 and am using the same mag. The .284 cartridge, being a larger diameter than the Swede, works fairly well in that magazine but any smaller and you would have problems. The feed lips would have to be tweaked a little to keep the cartridge a bit lower. As it is, the rim of that .284 just barely catches the rear of the mag.
I wouldn't hesitate to use it, just know that it'll require a little hand work, that's all.
Rooster
That's better Sunray! At least you're trying to provide answers with some substance now. Way to go buddy!
I built a .284 on a long action 700 and am using the same mag. The .284 cartridge, being a larger diameter than the Swede, works fairly well in that magazine but any smaller and you would have problems. The feed lips would have to be tweaked a little to keep the cartridge a bit lower. As it is, the rim of that .284 just barely catches the rear of the mag.
I wouldn't hesitate to use it, just know that it'll require a little hand work, that's all.
Rooster
Thank you.
Would you be able to elaborate on the required tweaking of the mag? I just want to know if it is something I should tackle or if I should seek help. I really don't want to mangle an AICS mag given their price (after I source some, of course).
I wonder if I would be able to swap out the follower if indeed there were issues?
Well, I suppose the first step is to source one and buy it; then let the tweaking begin!
358Rooster
CGN Regular
- Location
- Central Saskatchewan
I would post this in the Gunsmithing forum first - those guys over there will be able to recommend a smithy (which is what I would advise for this).
The issue won't be the width between the feed lips, it will be the height at which those lips hold the cartridge so that it doesn't run out the back of the mag. In order to do this, those lips need to be formed down a bit and as a result of doing that, the width between them gets narrower. Then you'll have to trim some material off the lips to allow the bolt / head to pass through. And unless you retain the same (or slightly larger) radius on those feed lips, you'll end up scoring your cases each time you run them through.
THEN, after you have this sorted out, you'll need to ensure that the whole assembly is at the right height (most likely have to deepen the bottom metal inletting on your stock) so that the bolt will actually catch the cartridge rim in order to push it out to chamber it. So yeah, take it to a smithy who knows these things. It's possible to do it yourself if you're a handy guy with a lot of patience (it tests it!) and the right tools.
On a more positive note, you won't have to do anything with the follower - it's flat (or at least mine is). One other possibility is to weld a small height extension to the rear of the mag that won't interfere with the bolt or any other function. It's a dicy proposition for anyone but a good craftsman, though.
If I'm way out of line on any of this, somebody please correct me or suggest something else. And my apologies if I am really out to lunch. When I get home Tuesday night, I'll run some Swede case into my mag & see what I come up with for you.
In the meantime, get this query into the gunsmithing section. Hope it helps.
Rooster
The issue won't be the width between the feed lips, it will be the height at which those lips hold the cartridge so that it doesn't run out the back of the mag. In order to do this, those lips need to be formed down a bit and as a result of doing that, the width between them gets narrower. Then you'll have to trim some material off the lips to allow the bolt / head to pass through. And unless you retain the same (or slightly larger) radius on those feed lips, you'll end up scoring your cases each time you run them through.
THEN, after you have this sorted out, you'll need to ensure that the whole assembly is at the right height (most likely have to deepen the bottom metal inletting on your stock) so that the bolt will actually catch the cartridge rim in order to push it out to chamber it. So yeah, take it to a smithy who knows these things. It's possible to do it yourself if you're a handy guy with a lot of patience (it tests it!) and the right tools.
On a more positive note, you won't have to do anything with the follower - it's flat (or at least mine is). One other possibility is to weld a small height extension to the rear of the mag that won't interfere with the bolt or any other function. It's a dicy proposition for anyone but a good craftsman, though.
If I'm way out of line on any of this, somebody please correct me or suggest something else. And my apologies if I am really out to lunch. When I get home Tuesday night, I'll run some Swede case into my mag & see what I come up with for you.
In the meantime, get this query into the gunsmithing section. Hope it helps.
Rooster
358Rooster
CGN Regular
- Location
- Central Saskatchewan
I got mine from Sean at North Shore Barrels when I ordered my A3 and bottom metal.
