Air Pistol Handgun hunting in BC

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I made some phone calls on Thursday, to the local office of the Ministry of Environment Conservation Office.

I wanted to know EXACTLY how the rules regarding air pistols (under 500fps/6 Ft.Lb energy) are regarding hunting.
The guy I spoke with was very helpful, and was vwery willing to sort out the specific legal definitions of what means what.

I started off by mentioning that certain animals are listed as "Schedule C" animals. These are usually introduced species that are harmful to native wildlife, so they get listed as schedule C, meaning they can be killed anywhere, anytime.
In the Fraser valley, American Bullfrogs are becoming a real pest, so they are on the list now.
Anyway, we both understood and agreed that as long as all Federal, Provincial, and Local laws are followed, I could hunt bullfrogs with an air rifle.
I then asked about hunting with an air pistol. At first he thought this would be OK, as it was a SchedC animal. I then asked for something in writing to this effect, in case I was stopped later. He was reluctant to do so, understandably, but aside from that, it seemed to be all systems go.
As the conversation went on, he got to thinking about the various BC definitions. The hunting synopsis gives a list of defintions, (pages 3-5) including :
Firearm--includes airguns.
Handgun---is a firearm....
Hunt and Hunting---blah, blah,blah,..... (b) while in possession of a firearm or other weapon.
and on page 14, the definition of wildlife includes SchedC animals.
and on page 9, the clicher. Handguns>It is illegal to hunt witha handgun in BC. See page 3 for a definition.
So... it would seem that I cannot hunt bullfrogs with my airpistol.

As I said, he was very helpful, and then offered to look up in the REAL regs, not the mini pamphlet we all work from. He called back an hour or so later to say that the official version was pretty much the same.

The end result is that becuase the provincial definition does not conform to the federal one, this option is not open.

What I would like to do now, is to get the BCWF to pur forward a resolution that states:

The Provincial defintion of air arms and firearms match that of the federal regulations.

Unfortunately, I am not currectly a member of a BCWF affiliated club (these things start at the club level), so can I get you guys to pick up the torch, and put forward a motion at your clubs?
 
under BC law. air guns are considered firearms. this law goes back before the pal /fac and federal laws were made. the BC law also states you need an "air gun license" to own air guns in BC. this law is still there!...

technically everyone in BC who owns an air gun is breaking the law. because I doubt you could get this license anywhere anymore. and I doubt most people even know about it.
 
Last year at teh BCWF convention, a resolution was passed to petition the gvt to remove the "no handgun hunting" law from BC's regs. So far nothig has moved on it yet, maybe you should become a direct member and make soem calls tot he appropriate people? Could be a good way to get the ball rolling.

Handguns were not specificlaly banned form hunting in BC at one time, so it was quite legal to use air pistols for grouse etc.
 
Gatehouse,
I was aware, through some posts here on CGN, that the BCWF had put up a resolution regarding removing the HGH ban in BC. I don't have the exact wording (I looked for it on the BCWF site, but didnt find it), but am aware of it.

The guy I talked to on Thurs said that the province DOES listen to the various resolutions, so that is the best way to get something done.

He also mentioned that several of the other guys in his office are handgun owners, and shooters, so he is onside.
He also knew that HGH is big in the US, and seemed OK with that.
Now it is just a matter of getting the buerocrats in Victoria to come around!
 
scott said:
under BC law. air guns are considered firearms. this law goes back before the pal /fac and federal laws were made. the BC law also states you need an "air gun license" to own air guns in BC. this law is still there!...

technically everyone in BC who owns an air gun is breaking the law. because I doubt you could get this license anywhere anymore. and I doubt most people even know about it.
You have to be ####ting me... Thats crazy, are you sure its still i the book?
 
I was just poking around the Airgun Canada forum,
(http://www.airgunforum.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8316)
and learned that air-pistols CAN be used for hunting in Ontario, of all places!
http://publicdocs.mnr.gov.on.ca/View.asp?Document_ID=10734&Attachment_ID=20631


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Firearms

Firearms include air or pellet guns, bows and crossbows. You may use semi-automatic or repeating firearms for hunting inOntario, but not handguns or fully automatic firearms. Air and pellet pistols with a muzzle velocity less than 500 feet per second may be used for hunting in Ontario. For storage and transportation information, contact your local police department.
 
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