Alberta Big Game Draws

If I'm reading it properly, every license will have two tags, which is double the amount of deer indicated. Example: Zone 108 has 788 female allocations X 2= 1576 does. WOW!!!

In the chart from the link you posted most (but not all) WMU's show an "*" indicating two tags for antler-less mules when you get drawn so your correct that is a lot of tags this year.

I don’t know very many guys who go out of their way to shoot a bunch of mule does. Especially if they are in an area full of cwd.

True, but its a meat hunt to fill the freezer for the winter and I'm sure it will be mandatory CWD testing for anything harvested with those tags.

With all the mule tags they plan on handing out it will be May next year before test results on the heads are finished.

Your right, the lab will be absolutely packed this year with heads for testing,............:(

Even last year I think it was all of two months or more to get my mule deer buck results back. Need to get out on opening day this year and fill your tag(s) and get your head in early to beat the rush.
 
With all the mule tags they plan on handing out it will be May next year before test results on the heads are finished.

Hopefully the provincial government will hire more people to have rapid test results. They sat on their ass for 20 years and did not curb the issue.
 
I don’t know very many guys who go out of their way to shoot a bunch of mule does. Especially if they are in an area full of cwd.

Yes, I agree with you, but something has to be done. I haven't shot a doe in 30 years, and don't condemn it, it's nice to see guys getting out, hunting for meat and having fun. Hopefully the government is organized to have very rapid testing results.
 
We'll see if they also open up the general mule deer season in more WMU's for non-draw tags, I don't think that will occur though, at least I have not heard about them planning on doing that this year.
Probably next year though, because they plan on running this cull for two years.
If a person put in for an antlered mule deer draw this year, you were probably successful in drawing the tag.
If you want a very nice mule deer, this is the year to put in the effort and time, because it will be many, many years before the populations recover from this cull.
If ever.

At least they are letting hunters/outfitters take out as many as possible, unlike the whitetail cull that occurred 2005-6.
They shot a few thousand from helicopters and tossed them all into pits.

I get it, there is no real solution for CWD, and culls slow the spread.
I wish there was a magic wand way to solve the issue, but there isn't.
All because of damn game farming, ****.
 
It's true, but hard to believe that the success is very low. Geez, mule deer are most easy to hunt, they are like gophers. I wonder what the excuses are to not being successful?

Two main reasons I see:

1- Guys won't get out of their truck and walk. Mule deer might be varmint but not all of them hang out by the fence.
2- Less and less land owners grant permission to hunt on their land. Can't say I blame them, too many idiots around these days.
 
It's true, but hard to believe that the success is very low. Geez, mule deer are most easy to hunt, they are like gophers. I wonder what the excuses are to not being successful?

Trophy hunters aren’t finding what they’re looking for. And guys are drawing mule doe tags and not shooting them. Because they aren’t really good table fare and potentially have cwd.
 
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Well lets all hope the Government doesn't come to the conclusion that not enough animals were removed from the population and starts smoking them them from helicopters.
The 2021 hunting regulations are now available for viewing, they've added double tag supplemental WT licences in many WMU's this year.
They are serious about reducing Alberta's deer population.
https://albertaregulations.ca/
 
A CWD cull shouldn’t be up to hunters to complete and the only part the government should play is paying the bill for professional shooters.

Get some experience up here from the states that do this regularly and have success.
 
They try the best they can and are probably pretty good at it.
"If" they cull by air they try to salvage as much meat as possible, no doubt there are limits about getting every tidbit off a carcass.
They have increased the hunter harvest quota in an attempt to give the public an opportunity to fill their freezers too if they want.
They are well aware that there is poor public perception about culls of this sort, deserved or not.

This is from an SRD biologist in 2008 regarding that cull:

"There have been some recent newspaper articles and photographs circulating that are grossly misrepresenting the CWD disease control program. As many staff are being sent these items I thought it would be good to bring all staff up to date with the program. There is a small group of individuals who would like to shut the disease control program down. We have met with them, together and individually several times but they have decided to pursue a campaign of misinformation accompanied with graphic photographs. I stress that this is a small group of individuals, most of the farming communities where this work is being done are supportive of the program.

The chronic wasting disease control program, as it is currently being run, is conducted according to the most prudent and appropriate means to respond to the risks posed by the disease. Our goal is to find and remove infected deer before they infect others, and to control further spread by eliminating deer in targeted small high risk areas where CWD has been found. The program goals and assumptions were reviewed recently by an external panel of wildlife disease experts and they recommended that we stay the course of using combined hunter recreational effort in the fall with targeted government action in the winter. They agreed that our assumptions and actions were fully reasonable and responsible in light of the current knowledge of this disease. Our approach is very similar to what happens when CWD is found on a cervid farm and all animals that possibly have come in contact with the infected animal are eliminated from the farm.

One difference with the deer removal is that we salvage much of the meat. We have done this on all of our CWD programs since 2003 but we have never said we salvage every deer. The meat is salvaged according to protocols which are based on human and occupational health and safety. Several factors are considered to determine if the deer is to be salvaged. The internal organs are inspected for disease and parasites and the general body condition is examined. Anything tainted, contaminated, or unsafe for staff to salvage is not processed. There has been a fairly high incidence of pneumonia in deer this year as well as quite a few deer with evidence of previous infections. As a result our salvage rate is about 65 to 70%, which is down a little from last year. What appears to be a high proportion of unused deer in photos of the disposal pit is a direct result of the salvaged carcasses sliding down between the unskinned deer. In addition, the salvaged carcasses are much smaller (because we removed the meat!) and so they do not show up as prominently as the unskinned unsalvaged deer from which we only collect the head.

Last year we supplied 1000s of pounds of meat to First Nations, Métis, and local residents as well as to needy families through the food bank programs. We also provided 800 lbs of hamburger to the Edmonton food bank. All salvaged meat is held until the head tests negative for CWD and then it is released for distribution (meat from positive deer is removed and incinerated). We currently have a full-sized reefer truck stacked nearly full of salvaged meat. This meat is very much appreciated by the communities and individuals that receive it. In addition the salvaged hides are donated to the Alberta Fish and Game hide donation program, which then sells them to tanneries and uses the money for habitat development and enhancement. We continue to provide antlers and other teaching materials to the Alberta Hunter Education Instructors Association as well as research samples for a variety of academic projects.
The deer carcasses are disposed of in a deep burial pit. This method has been thoroughly reviewed and accepted in Canada and the USA as a method of disposing of large numbers of carcasses, including those that may have CWD. It is in fact the recommended procedure and is used specifically by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency when they depopulate cervid farms where CWD is identified. There is no risk to the cottage owners at Dilberry Lake as a result of burying deer carcasses.

The misinformation about the lack of public meetings and input is simply not true. Since we began our CWD programs in the Barrhead/ Ft Assiniboine area in the winter of 2003, we have hosted numerous public meetings, particularly along the eastern border from Lloydminster to Empress. Further to this, Chauvin/Dilberry is one of the central sites where we have hosted repeated public meetings - either before or after, or both before and after, delivering our winter control programs in 2005, 2006, and 2007. We have two ongoing CWD Public Advisory Committees, one of which meets regularly in Chauvin and one in Empress. In addition, we have repeatedly mailed information bulletins to local residents in CWD risk areas - most recently in January 2008. We also provide ongoing updates to stakeholders and residents via our disease web pages. This year our staff and the advisory committees indicated that local residents generally were aware of the disease and our response programs, and they recommended we only conduct a follow-up public meeting to report on what was accomplished and to invite input into how the disease control programs should proceed based on new information gained from the most recent fall and winter programs.


On a final note, we have now amassed a considerable amount of data and information specific to CWD in Alberta and our various response programs. We are moving into a period of data analysis that, in addition to the recommendations from the recent external peer review, will provide additional information to guide future plans."
 
Alberta SRD is a farce.
They give covid relief tags to outfitters because they potentially lost clients in the covid 2020.
Residents have been shooting cwd deer for years. Paying to process it. Then throwing it in the garbage because srd notifies you in February that it’s cwd positive. Srd will not give you another tag, even though you just did their dirty work.
 
Well lets all hope the Government doesn't come to the conclusion that not enough animals were removed from the population and starts smoking them them from helicopters.
The 2021 hunting regulations are now available for viewing, they've added double tag supplemental WT licences in many WMU's this year.
They are serious about reducing Alberta's deer population.
https://albertaregulations.ca/

I see that the front cover of the regulations went "political correctness". The zone I hunt whitetails has increased it's doe tags to double. I guess that I should not be surprised, hence, mild winters over the past 4 to 5 years. It's a great sign that the population has increased, which leads to more hunting opportunities for outdoorsmen.
 
A CWD cull shouldn’t be up to hunters to complete and the only part the government should play is paying the bill for professional shooters.

Get some experience up here from the states that do this regularly and have success.

I haven't the faintness idea how to solve this CWD issue, nor would I say anything. However, I would not agree to have "professional shooters" (BTW, who are professional shooters) to perform such task, for various reasons..............could you imagine the cost and hostility from hunters?
 
Alberta SRD is a farce.
They give covid relief tags to outfitters because they potentially lost clients in the covid 2020.
Residents have been shooting cwd deer for years. Paying to process it. Then throwing it in the garbage because srd notifies you in February that it’s cwd positive. Srd will not give you another tag, even though you just did their dirty work.
I'm not suggesting SRD is the champion of biological science, LOL.
All I'm really commenting on is that there is going to be a large reduction in deer numbers over the next couple years whether anyone likes it or not.
 
I'm not suggesting SRD is the champion of biological science, LOL.
All I'm really commenting on is that there is going to be a large reduction in deer numbers over the next couple years whether anyone likes it or not.

That’s what they intend but Alberta hunters will not provide this large reduction in deer numbers.
 
I haven't the faintness idea how to solve this CWD issue, nor would I say anything. However, I would not agree to have "professional shooters" (BTW, who are professional shooters) to perform such task, for various reasons..............could you imagine the cost and hostility from hunters?

Professional means paid, game keepers and such it’s done throughout the world.

Don’t care about hunters we all don’t get along about anything anyway.

Get some pros in from the sates train contractors and deal with the problem.

Cost? At least I would see a value in my tax dollars being spent.
 
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That’s what they intend but Alberta hunters will not provide this large reduction in deer numbers.
You are probably correct, I guess we'll see over the next 2 or 3 years, hence the distinct possibility of an air borne cull.
I expect that they will open up general mule deer licences next year too, they didn't have time to do that this year.
Don't get me wrong here, I do not like this cull stuff, I'm of the opinion to just let things be what they may.
CWD is here to stay regardless of how many cloven hooves they put in a pile.
 
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