Alberta Bow Association Allocation Policy Survey

Cintax said:
I have hunted Alberta in the past as a NR hunter. Typically WT OTC tags. I keep paying the HH fee, paying the wildlife stamp and draw fees each year to advance priority. I pay a lot more for my tag than any resident hunter so that line about taxpayers can fly a kite. By the time I am priority 5, which is what I would need to draw where my uncle hunts, my tag will have cost me at least $500 in fees. That's money I am putting into another provinces wildlife management fund.

Why shouldn't I be allowed to draw a tag same as anyone else?
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The laws in all provincial provinces discriminate. (ie: out of province residence pay more for their licenses) Not only wildlife laws but all laws discriminate including the Criminal Code of Canada.
 
Very interesting discussion of these issues on the Alberta Forum...
Seems a few Albertans are catching on as to how they are being played...

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=334246

Unfortunately cannot get the Alberta Outdoorsman magazine here in town.
If anyone can, and would be willing to provide a summery of TJ's article, I would be forever grateful...

Tomorrow is the last day for the survey's folks...

Cheers,
Nog
 
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IronNoggin said:
Very interesting discussion of these issues on the Alberta Forum...
Seems a few Albertans are catching on as to how they are being played...

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=334246

Unfortunately cannot get the Alberta Outdoorsman magazine here in town.
If anyone can, and would be willing to provide a summery of TJ's article, I would be forever grateful...

Tomorrow is the last day for the survey's folks...

Cheers,
Nog
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I read the survey and most of it I agreed, especially the elimination of landowner tags. Don't get me wrong, I totally respect landowners and most grateful that they allow hunting on their land, however; there should be no special interest groups that have privileges over the status-quo. Meaning: everyone treated equally.
I'll be heading out to get the magazine, like, "right now"!
 
Yeah I'm going to listen to non-resident tell me how it should be. Not.
I find it offensive that non-residents are chiming in.
Residents first. If there's any left over, your welcome to it.
 
track said:
... I'll be heading out to get the magazine, like, "right now"!
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Be rather interested in your thoughts and perhaps a synopsis of what TJ said.

Buckmastr said:
Yeah I'm going to listen to non-resident tell me how it should be. Not.
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You are of course entitled to your own opinion.
I am rather pleased that many enlightened Albertans are stepping away from the petty and spiteful knee-jerk reaction, and taking the time to investigate where these proposed changes are coming from, and just what they mean to residents (as well as their hunter friends and family from outside the province). Not saying you have to follow suit, but the link I posted above might be a fine place to start...

And just FYI: I lived in Alberta for a considerably long period of time. Not only did I hunt and fish there, I worked for Fish & Wildlife, National Parks, and as a consultant to both as well as the provincial government. In addition, my volunteer time then was numbered in the thousands of hours. I'd hazard a guess I have put FAR more towards wildlife / fisheries conservation and habitat enhancement in that province than you yourself has sir. ;)

Cheers,
Nog
 
track said:
The laws in all provincial provinces discriminate. (ie: out of province residence pay more for their licenses) Not only wildlife laws but all laws discriminate including the Criminal Code of Canada.
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I suppose. Alberta let's people hunt with a guide or a hunter host. When I apply to a draw, I'm using 999 so that I can get my priority high enough to have a chance in this specific unit. It will take a minimum of five years to have the potential to draw an antlered mule deer tag. In that time everyone else gets to put in for the draw and earn priority. The best part about the system in Alberta is eventually you will get a tag. Compared to Ontario's moose draw system this is amazing.

How is it fair that a non-resident who is putting in each year for a HH, certificate and draw could have his or her priority skipped because some 1st timer Albertian decided to put in? This is the scenario I see when I see people posting Alberians first let the non-resident have the left overs.
 
IronNoggin said:
Be rather interested in your thoughts and perhaps a synopsis of what TJ said.



You are of course entitled to your own opinion.
I am rather pleased that many enlightened Albertans are stepping away from the petty and spiteful knee-jerk reaction, and taking the time to investigate where these proposed changes are coming from, and just what they mean to residents (as well as their hunter friends and family from outside the province). Not saying you have to follow suit, but the link I posted above might be a fine place to start...

And just FYI: I lived in Alberta for a considerably long period of time. Not only did I hunt and fish there, I worked for Fish & Wildlife, National Parks, and as a consultant to both as well as the provincial government. In addition, my volunteer time then was numbered in the thousands of hours. I'd hazard a guess I have put FAR more towards wildlife / fisheries conservation and habitat enhancement in that province than you yourself has sir. ;)

Cheers,
Nog
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TJ's article is primarily focused through his crystal ball regarding the Non-Resident Canadians Special License Draws.....pure speculation. After reading TJ's article and reading the survey, my crystal ball envisions that non-resident Canadians will not be eligible to the pronghorn, mule deer buck and elk special draws. Alberta landowners (farmers/ranchers) will not be entitled to landowner special licenses. I cannot envision a long wait time if this occurs, however to the contrary; but the wait time will be only a trifle shorter, one to two years. Who prophets from this? Resident hunters and outfitters. My point of view.
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WMU 94 in ontario is no stranger to self serving special interest.
I thought self serving special interest is just how canada rolls....
 
track said:
TJ's article is primarily focused through his crystal ball regarding the Non-Resident Canadians Special License Draws.....pure speculation...
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TJ does bring a world of experience in such matters to his "speculation" though.

Many Thanks Track, sincerely Appreciated.
Even though we may not be on the exact same page in some of this, you'd be welcome at my camp any time.

cath8r said:
... I thought self serving special interest is just how Canada rolls....
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Human nature, anyone under the bus in the name of self it seems... :(

Cheers,
Nog
 
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