Because I don't find the desire to have the thread all about me, I'll just say, good post Moon. Keep the info coming, I'm still waiting for more replies to see if there is anything new.
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Alberta - Is RAMP Dead?
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Because I don't find the desire to have the thread all about me, I'll just say, good post Moon. Keep the info coming, I'm still waiting for more replies to see if there is anything new.
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I have not posted anything here before because I have nothing posative, negative or neutral to contribute to this issue.
However, if it is not too far off topic, What the heck are "ALBERTA RESIDENT HUNTERS FOR JUSTICE" going to do if RAMP is gone?
Maybe that is why some fear that RAMP is not really "dead" or that HFH may rise up again.
Gives meaning to the phrase "rebel without a cause"
Given your prerequisites for posting, I'm not sure what compelled you to make this post, but it does give meaning to a lot of less than flattering phrases I can think of too. I understand you're disappointed that RAMP was cancelled duffy, but go back to your whimsical musings about animal tracks and whining about ATVs, it's more your speed...
Good 'ol duffy4.
Waxy
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I have not posted anything here before because I have nothing posative, negative or neutral to contribute to this issue.
So basically you came here to do nothing but stir the sh1t pot.
I have not posted anything here before because I have nothing posative, negative or neutral to contribute to this issue.
However, if it is not too far off topic, What the heck are "ALBERTA RESIDENT HUNTERS FOR JUSTICE" going to do if RAMP is gone?
Maybe that is why some fear that RAMP is not really "dead" or that HFH may rise up again.
Gives meaning to the phrase "rebel without a cause"
Nothing would make us happier.
I hear a chat about Savage 99's chambered in 284 being the ultimate quad gun on another thread....better get over there to steer that one back on the rails there Duffy
Sorry Davey - I couldn't resist.
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Well then I will say this, it is too far off topic.
This thread is about: Alberta - Is RAMP Dead? And we would like to see it stay that way.
If you want to ask questions about ARHJ or HFH, start another thread.
I have not posted anything here before because I have nothing posative, negative or neutral to contribute to this issue.
However, if it is not too far off topic, What the heck are "ALBERTA RESIDENT HUNTERS FOR JUSTICE" going to do if RAMP is gone?
Maybe that is why some fear that RAMP is not really "dead" or that HFH may rise up again.
Gives meaning to the phrase "rebel without a cause"
IF the remenants of HFH and O.S. (RAMP) disappears, it will be due -in no small part- to the bullheaded arrogance and general stupidity of those who tried to implement and/or support these "initiatives". The greed and duplicity that spawned these ideas however is still very much alive in Alberta. I would not at all be surprised to see another incarnation of paid-hunting rear it's head.
Your notion that opposition to paid-hunting is a hobby, is as absurbed as a person believing that Alberta's hunters are such gigantic pussies, that they need to hide behind a "Secret Ballot" to vote their conscience.
More like hornets duffy, and unlike elsewhere, your years of practised a$$ kissing and your vapid "Dudley Do Right" persona won't provide much protection and/or pity here when you disturb the nest.
You can begin trying to "sensibly" discuss RAMP at any time, and if/when you do, I'm sure you'll find no shortage of sensible replies. Of course, that would require you to actually grow a set and stand up for your convictions in public, so I don't expect any actual meaningful discussion from you...
Waxy
P.S. I LOVE the smilies here.
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OK guys, you made your point.
You just can't fix stupid
I have put it into point form to hopefully make it simpler Duffy:
1. The original poster asked if it (RAMP)were dead based on discussions with elected officials suggesting it were.
2. Discussions with the fellow who is heading the pilot confirms the pilot is dead - I spoke to Grant directly and he says the funding does not continue beyond March 31 of next year. The original pilot was to be three years. I am sure you don't believe what I have to say - check with your buddy Sheephunter, or better yet call Grant (his contact is on the SRD site) and find out for yourself. Or you can continue to blather and illustrate your ignorance.
3.Grant said the payments are going to be cut back for the remainder of the pilot. The sign in component is going to remain. There will be data collected.
4. Payment to landowners for access will not component of the pilot in the remainder if this iteration (RAMP).
5. Paid hunting(not payed - for god sakes; get an adult to help you if you are so inept) will continue to be a threat as long as greed and lazy politics exists - see Ike's post above
6. maybe start your own thread, one that can effectively address the "Duffy Identified" (non)issues that are so plaguing the hunting community.
If you've nothing constructive to add, just walk away. We all thank you in advance.
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Their posts were directed to you, I shouldn't have to spell it out for you, figure it out for yourself.
I will spell this out for you Duffy, If you want to discuss RAMP or hopefully the end of it, then please do. But, if you want to stir sh1t over this issue as you have done in the past it will result in an infraction or maybe more more than one.
Consider this your warning.
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I appreciate you guys trying to keep this on topic(most of you anyways). But the last two pages or so it has gone somewhat downhill and if it doesn't get back on track right quick I will have to lock her up.
Seems to be a regular occurrence when this topic pops up.
Seems to be a regular occurrence when this topic pops up.
noskie
Sorry you will have to slow it down and esplain it again.
2. Discussions with the fellow who is heading the pilot confirms the pilot is dead - I spoke to Grant directly and he says the funding does not continue beyond March 31 of next year. The original pilot was to be three years. I am sure you don't believe what I have to say - check with your buddy Sheephunter, or better yet call Grant (his contact is on the SRD site) and find out for yourself. Or you can continue to blather and illustrate your ignorance.
3.Grant said the payments are going to be cut back for the remainder of the pilot. The sign in component is going to remain. There will be data collected.
4. Payment to landowners for access will not component of the pilot in the remainder if this iteration (RAMP).
Correct me if I am wrong but if something extends into the future say till March 31 of next year, then it is alive and not dead.
Are you using the phrase "it IS dead" instead of saying "it WILL BE dead"?
I am not saying I am in favour of RAMP or not. I am just saying it is not at the present dead. I thought that is what the original question was.
Sorry you will have to slow it down and esplain it again.
2. Discussions with the fellow who is heading the pilot confirms the pilot is dead - I spoke to Grant directly and he says the funding does not continue beyond March 31 of next year. The original pilot was to be three years. I am sure you don't believe what I have to say - check with your buddy Sheephunter, or better yet call Grant (his contact is on the SRD site) and find out for yourself. Or you can continue to blather and illustrate your ignorance.
3.Grant said the payments are going to be cut back for the remainder of the pilot. The sign in component is going to remain. There will be data collected.
4. Payment to landowners for access will not component of the pilot in the remainder if this iteration (RAMP).
Correct me if I am wrong but if something extends into the future say till March 31 of next year, then it is alive and not dead.
Are you using the phrase "it IS dead" instead of saying "it WILL BE dead"?
I am not saying I am in favour of RAMP or not. I am just saying it is not at the present dead. I thought that is what the original question was.
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noskie
Sorry you will have to slow it down and esplain it again.
2. Discussions with the fellow who is heading the pilot confirms the pilot is dead - I spoke to Grant directly and he says the funding does not continue beyond March 31 of next year. The original pilot was to be three years. I am sure you don't believe what I have to say - check with your buddy Sheephunter, or better yet call Grant (his contact is on the SRD site) and find out for yourself. Or you can continue to blather and illustrate your ignorance.
3.Grant said the payments are going to be cut back for the remainder of the pilot. The sign in component is going to remain. There will be data collected.
4. Payment to landowners for access will not component of the pilot in the remainder if this iteration (RAMP).
Correct me if I am wrong but if something extends into the future say till March 31 of next year, then it is alive and not dead.
Are you using the phrase "it IS dead" instead of saying "it WILL BE dead"?
I am not saying I am in favour of RAMP or not. I am just saying it is not at the present dead. I thought that is what the original question was.
Out of respect to Davey and the other moderators, I refuse to bite any longer.
Have a good one!
norskie
noskie
sorry you will have to slow it down and esplain it again.
2. Discussions with the fellow who is heading the pilot confirms the pilot is dead - i spoke to grant directly and he says the funding does not continue beyond march 31 of next year. The original pilot was to be three years. I am sure you don't believe what i have to say - check with your buddy sheephunter, or better yet call grant (his contact is on the srd site) and find out for yourself. Or you can continue to blather and illustrate your ignorance.
3.grant said the payments are going to be cut back for the remainder of the pilot. the sign in component is going to remain. There will be data collected.
4. Payment to landowners for access will not component of the pilot in the remainder if this iteration (ramp).
Correct me if i am wrong but if something extends into the future say till march 31 of next year, then it is alive and not dead.
Are you using the phrase "it is dead" instead of saying "it will be dead"?
I am not saying i am in favour of ramp or not. I am just saying it is not at the present dead. I thought that is what the original question was.
ffs sbduffy, read what norskie has written. He tells you all the newest information on ramp from the horses mouth. If that's not good enough for you, take a hike!! If you have any new info, post it. Or just stfu!!
Semantics aside I do believe RAMP to be all but dead. I really can not see any landowner giving up complete control of access to his property without compensation. Any landowner that stays in the program will in my opinion be Type R-SWL which means it is no different than asking for permission on any property in Alberta. My prediction is that not a single landowner will participate.
Now as to the death of paid hunting in Alberta the fight is far from over. Sheephunter and I have both stated that there is a possibility this could bring back HFH or a form of HFH. The landowners, hunters and politicians that have pushed this are not going to give up easily.
Now as to the death of paid hunting in Alberta the fight is far from over. Sheephunter and I have both stated that there is a possibility this could bring back HFH or a form of HFH. The landowners, hunters and politicians that have pushed this are not going to give up easily.
I love this site. FINALLY some concrete information, with (almost) none of the spin and bull**** that was (and is) so pervasive on "another" forum about Alberta hunting.
My thanks to CGN, Davey, and all the guys who chimed in on the current RAMP situation and managed to keep the conversation clean. Glad to know RAMP is on its way out.
My thanks to CGN, Davey, and all the guys who chimed in on the current RAMP situation and managed to keep the conversation clean. Glad to know RAMP is on its way out.
