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I am thinking of using muzzleloader this hunting season. I am having trouble find the laws regarging muzzlerloaders in Alberta. for example, Can one travel in their truck with the power and ball in the muzzle/barrel as long as the cap is removed, or must the gun be unloaded? ect ect
 
well that muzzle loader law is federal if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.albertaregulations.ca/huntingregs/

EDIT: ok, nothing in the link about that... weird regs, I'm used to Ontario and BC, seems more complicated in Alberta.

another EDIT: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/powder-poudre-eng.htm

Storing and Transporting Black Powder Firearms

As set out in regulations supporting the Firearms Act, you are required to store and transport all firearms, including antique firearms, safely to deter loss, theft and accidents. All firearms must be unloaded for storage and transportation.

Exception: Black powder muzzleloaders do not have to be unloaded when they are being transported between hunting sights if their firing cap or flint has been removed.


Federal as I thought
 
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Here in Mb, we have a seperate muzzleloading season for deer. But they can also be used in rifle deer, moose, elk. bear seasons. I don't have the reg's handy but I think they have to be over .45 cal.
 
toxic111 said:
A muzzleloader is not considered loaded until there is a cap/primer, or power in the pan.

There used to be something in the AB regs, but that may have been changed.
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In BC, you can only transport a muzzle loader with powder and ball in the barrel but no cap or flint, between hunting sites (in your vehicle). In other words you have to be on gravel roads and once you hit the pavement, the gun is considered loaded.

cheers mooncoon
 
mooncoon said:
In BC, (... snipped), In other words you have to be on gravel roads and once you hit the pavement, the gun is considered loaded.

cheers mooncoon
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Um.... oh yea. I don't see that in any regulations nor is it in the Federal Code.
Care to show a reference on the type of road?

The Current BC Hunting regulations only state the following in regards to Muzzle loaders. I made the bold highlight.
4A muzzle loader containing powder and shot in the barrel but
unprimed (ie, no powder in the pan of a flint lock or no cap in the
nipple of a percussion lock) is not considered a loaded firearm under
the Criminal Code (Canada).
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Source, Pg. 17 08-09 BC Hunting Synopsis
 
Alberta has not had much in terms of black powder seasons so they have not put a lot of effort into stating the rules of use for one. As mentioned elsewhere you are not considered loaded until you have a cap or flint. Are you doing CWD or Wainwright hunts this year?
 
There used to be a few zones right around Calgary and Edmonton that were bow and muzzleloader only. Mostly acreage country and I believe that you needed to have signed landowner permission to get the tags.
 
I was just on the Ab reg site and under the general regulations, also under Big Game prohibitions it states where there are muzzleloader seasons. I never did find any rules for the wzler itself other than the .45 cal rule.
 
in previous years I believe the regulations have said that you can transport a muzzle loader between hunting sites with load in the barrel but unprimed or no flint. That was interpreted to mean between sites separated by logging roads or similar and not between sites separated by a paved highway. Regardless of how it may be currently phrased, I believe that is how it is interpreted at present

cheers mooncoon
 
toxic111 said:
A muzzleloader is not considered loaded until there is a cap/primer, or power in the pan.
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This is true of Ontario as well. Powder & ball may be loaded, but no cap on the nipple, or the touchhole needs to be blocked on a flinter.
(They originally tried to make flintlock users "remove" their flints in the regs, but I mean...really - lets just hope it goes bang after frigging around with the flint at 5am!!
 
Weapontech said:
(They originally tried to make flintlock users "remove" their flints in the regs, but I mean...really - lets just hope it goes bang after frigging around with the flint at 5am!!
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Speaking from personal experience a flinter with an open vent hole will definitely fire (sometimes) with no priming in the pan

cheers mooncoon
 
mooncoon said:
Speaking from personal experience a flinter with an open vent hole will definitely fire (sometimes) with no priming in the pan
cheers mooncoon
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That having been said, why are flintlock hunters not allowed to use frizzen stalls transporting between sites, like they did many years ago? I mean, they seemed to figure out that it was the best way; so why the hell can 't the various MNR's figure it out?!?!?
 
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