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Patriot762x51 said:
Hmmm no you don't its a rimfire no barrel length restrictions
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This was the reply rick from atrs got on this same question about a dedicated rimfire upper

Good afternoon Rick,

Your question has been referred to me. I understand the specific question to be the classification of a rifle with a 22 Long Rifle (rimfire) barrel mounted on the receiver of a semiautomatic centre fire rifle (the Modern Sporter), temporarily replacing the centre fire barrel. You also mention that the overall length will never be less than 660 mm (26 inches) on folding of telescoping stock models.

Given the above, the provisions which render a rifle a restricted firearm via a folding or telescoping stock, would not apply.

Thus the determining factor, and the precise point of your question, would be whether the 470 mm barrel length provision applies. In this case, I believe it does.

The description of the firearm clearly establishes that it is not a prohibited firearm, but also establishes the underlying firearm is capable of discharging centrefire ammunition in a semiautomatic manner, even though that is not what is intended when the 22LR barrel is installed.

The remaining factor is the length of the barrel, which would result in a restricted firearm classification if the barrel length were less than 470 mm; and with a longer barrel, non-restricted.

So if a non-restricted outcome is desired, the barrel length of the 22LR barrel must be over 470 mm (18.5 inches).

Regards,


Murray A. Smith
Manager,
Specialized Firearms Support Services
Firearms Investigative and Enforcement Support Services Directorate
Canadian Firearms Program
Specialized Policing Services
 
greg olmstead said:
This was the reply rick from atrs got on this same question about a dedicated rimfire upper

Good afternoon Rick,

Your question has been referred to me. I understand the specific question to be the classification of a rifle with a 22 Long Rifle (rimfire) barrel mounted on the receiver of a semiautomatic centre fire rifle (the Modern Sporter), temporarily replacing the centre fire barrel. You also mention that the overall length will never be less than 660 mm (26 inches) on folding of telescoping stock models.

Given the above, the provisions which render a rifle a restricted firearm via a folding or telescoping stock, would not apply.

Thus the determining factor, and the precise point of your question, would be whether the 470 mm barrel length provision applies. In this case, I believe it does.

The description of the firearm clearly establishes that it is not a prohibited firearm, but also establishes the underlying firearm is capable of discharging centrefire ammunition in a semiautomatic manner, even though that is not what is intended when the 22LR barrel is installed.

The remaining factor is the length of the barrel, which would result in a restricted firearm classification if the barrel length were less than 470 mm; and with a longer barrel, non-restricted.

So if a non-restricted outcome is desired, the barrel length of the 22LR barrel must be over 470 mm (18.5 inches).

Regards,


Murray A. Smith
Manager,
Specialized Firearms Support Services
Firearms Investigative and Enforcement Support Services Directorate
Canadian Firearms Program
Specialized Policing Services
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This is simply illogical. The barrel only fires a 22lr projectile. Along with the bolt, it is the component of the firearm which makes it a rimfire. Why would this particular component need to adhere to centrefire restrictions?
And gotta love answers which include "I believe"....
 
My friend we live in the land of Liberal at the moment let's start clicking are heals and wish for a logical & conservative government in canada lol.
 
BlazinDayz said:
This is simply illogical. The barrel only fires a 22lr projectile. Along with the bolt, it is the component of the firearm which makes it a rimfire. Why would this particular component need to adhere to centrefire restrictions?
And gotta love answers which include "I believe"....
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Yes I agree it is illogical but so are the rest of our gun laws so really its par for the course. I can see where Murray is co.ing from but I also see the other side. The ms and slr were originally designed as centerfire rifles. But rifles originally made as rimfire can have a barrel under 18.6". Our laws here are about as clear as mud and I believe they are that way to trap people in a grey area where the opinion of the judge is the deciding factor not common sense
 
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