All around rifle

TheTooner said:
If you are going to have a nicer gun than a Stevens 200 with a Weaver K4, you are indulging yourself with more than you "need". So then there is no point limiting yourself to just one gun.
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There is some merit to that. At least go with a better scope then. ;)


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troutseeker said:
Hey CGN'rs!

I'm seriously thinking of reducing my arsenal to one do it all rifle!
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Talk like that scares me a little bit... One do it all rifle? Heresy. Can't be done, shouldn't be done. Two rifles is the bare minimum, probably a 30-06 and a .223. Plus a rimfire .22 and a 12 gauge shotgun.

How about a switch barrel mauser bolt action with barrels in .223 rem, 25-06, 30-06 , and .375 H&H? Technically that's one rifle. No?

If you really have to pare down to just one rifle - it should be in the 30-06 class, roughly speaking a 7mm rem mag / 270 win / 30-06 / .308 / .280, or similar. Boring as heck but workable.
 
Camp Cook said:
If I had to make this decision and I wanted to stay with the 30 cal I'd go with a 300 Win Mag or 300RUM over the WSM...

Unlike the WSM the Win Mag/RUM's can handle the heavier bullets.
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I get 2885fps from 200gr Sierras in my WSM. A 300WM should get another 50-75 or maybe 100 fps in the same barrel length. 200gr at almost 2900fps isn't so bad...:)
 
No not bad at all but nowhere near the performance of a 300RUM that I can also reduce to those velocities if that is all I wanted.

My 300RUM easily gets 3200fps with 200gr A-Frames, I was at the range yesterday afternoon shooting/chronographing it I also easily get 3350fps with 180gr Scirroco's... :)
 
Camp Cook said:
No not bad at all but nowhere near the performance of a 300RUM that I can also reduce to those velocities if that is all I wanted.

My 300RUM easily gets 3200fps with 200gr A-Frames, I was at the range yesterday afternoon shooting/chronographing it I also easily get 3350fps with 180gr Scirroco's... :)
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I don't think a 200gr bullet going 3200fps makes it any easier to hit game than one going 2950.....In fact the reverse may be true.

Not that I don't like the 300Ultra, but I think it is best as long range specialist. I think a fast 338 is the way to go if you want more power and flat trajectory.
 
I can't help but consider golfing with just 1 club...

In my mandatory collection requirement, there must exist at least a .22 for cheap fun and targets, a .223 for 100 yd+ targets and vermin. As far as hunting, I have a .270 but I don't chase anything bigger than deer. I would consider a .30-06 or bigger as the one hunter. I can't imagine having only 1 gun.
 
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Man oh man, why did I start this thread?:) After reading all your coments I'm having a hard time finalizing my decision!

Right now I've got a Ruger stainless in .338 WM as my big rifle, a Model 7 in 7mm SAUM as my mountain and deer rifle, two 6.5X55's (one I will keep, heirloom), a Savage .223 heavy barrel for long range, a Savage 24 30-30/20 gauge, some .22's...

Maybe the one rifle man is an unnatainable dream...:redface:

Troutseeker
 
Camp Cook said:
No not bad at all but nowhere near the performance of a 300RUM that I can also reduce to those velocities if that is all I wanted.

My 300RUM easily gets 3200fps with 200gr A-Frames, I was at the range yesterday afternoon shooting/chronographing it I also easily get 3350fps with 180gr Scirroco's... :)
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Of course the RUM and the 30-378 and some Lazzeroni design will produce higher velocities- They have much larger case capacities!:p

But that isn't the point. The point is that people have been telling us how the WSM can't use anything more than a 180gr bullet, when the reality is it performs comparably to a 300WM- and nobody is questioning that cartridges ability to digest 200gr bullets. (despite it's short neck:p)

Actually, Federal rates it's 200gr factory offering at 2700fps and Remington has 2825fps...
 
troutseeker said:
Maybe the one rifle man is an unnatainable dream...:redface:
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That reminds me of that old saying...

"Beware of the man that only owns one gun."

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Give it up Claude. Face it, you'll never make it down to 'just one gun'. Life's too short. Variety is the spice of life. The more the merrier. Yadda, yadda, yadda...:p

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When you do the math you are on track with your Choice .Powder to bore ratio and bullet selection it is just about perfect Energy and down range ballistics are excellent . Good Choice.
 
If you really are serious and are just reducing the # of rifles and not buying a new one to replace the others, Just keep the one that feels the best. I don't think there is the perfect anything. Rifle, Shotgun, Truck, Boat , Fishing Rod, Wife, etc. There is always a compromise. I have lots of guns and when I go hunting it's always the same one Parker Hale model 1200 C 300 Win Mag. Are there better rifles ??? Sure. But it works for me.
 
Or you could go with a Encore and have as many barrels as you want...

My son and I have 2 T/C Contender carbines and have 6 barrels.

16.5" 22LR
21" 223
21" 308Bellm (wildcat 444 Marlin brass necked down with 308 Win dies = 150gr bullet @ 2620fps)
21" 375JDJ
18.5" 10mm
22" 45-70

I would like to also get a 6mm wildcat that I could use for longer range predator hunting with 55gr or 70gr Ballistic Tips just can't decide which wildcat too go with.
 
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Time to resurrect this thread, hahaha! So I went and done it, after looking at many different options and rifles, I remembered that I really like Ruger rifles... So when a Ruger MarkII stainless/synthetic in .300WSM with 14 rounds down the pipe showed up on the exchange, well, it's now mine.

It's not the perfect rifle, but which one is? It weights 7 pounds 4 ounces with rings, not bad. I can put a VXIII 2.5X8 on it or a 3X9X36 Leupold Lightweight scope.

Now, anyone knows if there are some after market rings out there that weight less than the Rugers? And who makes a lightweight aftermarket stock for the Ruger?

Sniper-T, it look's like I will be selling a Remington Model 7 in 7SAUM and a Ruger MKII in .338WM, you looking?:D

Troutseeker
 
troutseeker said:
Time to resurrect this thread, hahaha! So I went and done it, after looking at many different options and rifles, I remembered that I really like Ruger rifles... So when a Ruger MarkII stainless/synthetic in .300WSM with 14 rounds down the pipe showed up on the exchange, well, it's now mine.

It's not the perfect rifle, but which one is? It weights 7 pounds 4 ounces with rings, not bad. I can put a VXIII 2.5X8 on it or a 3X9X36 Leupold Lightweight scope.

Now, anyone knows if there are some after market rings out there that weight less than the Rugers? And who makes a lightweight aftermarket stock for the Ruger?

Sniper-T, it look's like I will be selling a Remington Model 7 in 7SAUM and a Ruger MKII in .338WM, you looking?:D

Troutseeker
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What happened to the 77 in 6.5? You didn't sell that did you?
 
just checked the safe and I see I have 8 all-around rifles from a 7-08AI, a 280 Rem, two in 7mm STW, a 308, a 30-06, a 300 Win Mag and a 300 Wtby mag.....

8 rifles, 7 cartridges and only two bullet diameters......I think I'm getting things rounded....finally.

and they are all "all around" rifles.....any one of them would work for all the big game hunting I'll ever do....
 
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