All matching 1950r SKS, anything special?

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I have an matching 1950r SKS, it does not have a spring loaded firing pin and the stock is re-stamped to match. Is there any added value to the matching or early model? Sorry to ask stupid questions but seems like it could be a bigger deal than mismatched models.

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How is the extractor retained in the bolt?
Is it just cammed in place under spring loading, or do you have to drive out the firing pin retaining pin to release it?
If it's the first, then that's the correct period bolt, and likely the firing pin spring has been lost.
 
Bubba Yugga said:
How is the extractor retained in the bolt?
Is it just cammed in place under spring loading, or do you have to drive out the firing pin retaining pin to release it?
If it's the first, then that's the correct period bolt, and likely the firing pin spring has been lost.
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I will take a look later tonight.

Is this guys info legit? https://w w w.yooperj.com/

If it is a proper original 1950 is it worth any more than the run of the mill ones? Seeing most Russian SKSs going from $500-800 now depending on details.
 
The 1950 SKS with a free floating firing pin was the last transition done in 1950. From then on, SKS had a free floating firing pin. I would say, in my opinion that it is not any more special or worth more than any other SKS being sold. If it was an early SKS with a spike bayonet, then it would be worth more. Here is a folder of a 1950 with a free floating firing pin that I used to own. It shows the retaining pin on the bolt.
https://ibb.co/album/d2yxQa
 
If the rifle would have some early parts, like the take down lever with the hole, the free floating firing pin and the original stock, yes.
 
Yooperjohns is a great source for sks info. I don't think it's worth more if it doesn't have the unique 1950 features. If it is all matching minus the stock and it's nice then that definitely adds value.
 
i had two 1950, both were refurbs, one was bbq with ring take down lever, both are matching, both had spring loaded firing pins and mid version slanted gas blocks. sold both early this year for $450 each. nothing special about them, especially non chrome bore. PIA to clean.
 
If the stock is 'force-matched' it's a 'Refurb'. Does the magazine number match ALL the other parts including the gas piston ? Those are 'electro-pencil' numbered on the shaft. The mags 'mostly' were mixed up when Refurb was done, unless the nite b4 was 'low-octane vodka'. No particular reason to try to keep them 'correct' when Refurb was done.
 
Curtton said:
yes, if the stock is not original and if it is but the serial # are sanded or ###X out are all considered refurbs.
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That's why I mentioned the original stock. Most of them got the laminate stock during refurb.

Honestly what bothers me most is the franken pin or welded mag. I think some guy posted 2 non refurbs for 1,500 but the mags are so ugly. Cannot imagine spending more than $500 on those. Actually the nicest ones are the refurbs with non welded mag and matching.
 
Curtton said:
yes, if the stock is not original and if it is but the serial # are sanded or ###X out are all considered refurbs.
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It is ###X crossed out and then re-stamped, a hardwood stock though. Not mix-matched after the factory refurb though most likely.

Maybe I will try to get pictures and see what you guys think. I want to make sure if I sell it I get the value I should for it, but if it is special I may hold on to it :)
 
Neither of my 2x Refurbs had the 'outer gas tube' electro-pencilled with SN. Maybe just an enthusiastic refurber OR the previous owner making it 'look authentic'?
The 'gas piston' I mentioned is the inner shaft that drives the 'Operating Rod' inside the receiver.
 
Buck1950 said:
Neither of my 2x Refurbs had the 'outer gas tube' electro-pencilled with SN. Maybe just an enthusiastic refurber OR the previous owner making it 'look authentic'?
The 'gas piston' I mentioned is the inner shaft that drives the 'Operating Rod' inside the receiver.
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I took the piston out, did not see anything on there but I did scrub it down when I had it all apart to get it cleaned up.

Would that be an electro pencil or a stamp?
 
PS - Youper.john is an excellent source of SKS info, but also the sksboards .com I mentioned has lots of 'other' info you would be helped by reading the sections referring to your rifle. There are many other well-informed people there. The one you have might be a good shooter, as were my 2-'51s, but not likely it's 'super valuable'. Still in today's market they could be worth $500 or so.
 
On the Gas Piston it would have been an electro-pencil since it's hardened and they would not have risked stamping. Both of mine were done so.
Here's a vid from one of the 'major contributors' on sksboards - I don't know if he's still 'active'. One of many there who have lots to pass on.
http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba7Foczx-U4&list=UUc1-sU7WK1Ph87Ks0XQw_xw&index=105
 
One other thing, I watched Rocketvapor's vid thru and neither of my '51s had enuf 'vacuum' to hold the piston like he shows. Actually there's a mod to drill 'extra holes' in the gas tube to reduce the distance the empties are thrown. On mine I did 2x holes about 5/32" diameter, on opposite sides of the tube. It still throws about 10-15 feet, but almost straight sideways since I also did the ejection-port mod that cuts about 1/2" off the back edge making it 'square' instead of 'angled'. I used a dremel but it took 4-5 cutting discs and over 1/2 hour. - better to use an angle-grinder.
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