Yeah what a joke that importers don't demand straight rifles from the supplier and keep ripping off the public. Any company would have in a contract that if this happens big fines are to be expected. That would force the supplier to do something about it. This issue first appeared like 7 years ago and is still an issue today. And yes TI should check all these rifles and send all back that are not within microns not millimeters. it's complete bullshait. they are probably getting a sweet deal and don't want to upset the chinese. like 1000 rifles paid and another several thousand on consignment at like $250 a piece.
All-New: Type 81M
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Yeah what a joke that importers don't demand straight rifles from the supplier and keep ripping off the public. Any company would have in a contract that if this happens big fines are to be expected. That would force the supplier to do something about it. This issue first appeared like 7 years ago and is still an issue today. And yes TI should check all these rifles and send all back that are not within microns not millimeters. it's complete bullshait. they are probably getting a sweet deal and don't want to upset the chinese. like 1000 rifles paid and another several thousand on consignment at like $250 a piece.
Hey Ti, what would be consider out of spec?
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Oh man, if you ordered on the 20th, you’ve got some time ahead of you still.
People are still just getting updates or RCMP and shipment from the first 48 hours of the sale.
19:07, everyone who cried about their "bent" folder & "straightened it"
Keep us posted thank you, for some reason i thought you would of just sent them as one to not have two tracking numbers & christmas came early.
Nah, they'll go seperately so customers don't need to wait to start enjoying their rifles
Thank-you for your business! While we try to run in order, there may be a number of issues that may cause delays to processing orders, including:
-Missing PAL info/correct email for RCMP PAL verification
-Payment delay (ie e-transfer)
-PAL address not matching shipping address
-Order changes/additions
-Delays in rcmp providing transfer authorization number
-Canada Post picked up shipment, but didn't scan in yet (we only send once tracking scanned in)
Please also check your junkmail for tracking updates, as often they will go there as well. Cheers!
The specification is 4mm from centerline. The factory set up a jig as part of our request after the SA shipment. So far we have x1 confirmed case on this shipment (4.5mm), we are still 99.95% within specification.
According to pictures sent, deviation is 2.3mm, and therefore within specification
Its a small percantage if your consider everything below a 8mm difference side to side to be within spec. Your barrel need to be almost a whole centimeter off on one side to be consider out of spec.
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That's interesting math
After SA shipment both the specification was tightened and proceedures were set in place to measure and catch rifles with trunions placed out of specification. However the odd one does slip through, we have one confirmed case so for on M shipment, it is 0.5mm out of spec. Historically the T81 rifle has been 99.95% within specification.
The one metric that has been 100% is the rate of function. Despite selling in 5 figures numbers of rifles, we have not had a single rifle come back because it wasn't functioning properly. Even range guns going through 10's of thousands of rounds only need wear parts replaced on rare occasions, which we do under warranty.
To properly determine deviation, it must be calculated from the centerline
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Sorry, just want to clarify something, but I see some conflict with these 2 statements, at least indirectly or I may be misunderstanding. So according to my math in this shipment you got 2,000 Type81M ( 1 in 2000 is 0.05%) - How do you track those standards and specifications? What do you consider a "confirmed case"? Is it when a client performs a return or warranty check? Or when you or your vendor review them before shipping to the consumer? So those 99.95% within specification are only Type 81M (this lot)? Or do you include previous lots?
BTW - Sent you a PM. Thanks.
Not arguing with that. But my point is the threshold needed for being warranted is extremly high. If this would be any other rifle it would not even be a debate.
They could just be talking about the fixed stock Type 81M's. Previous estimates were around 5,000 underfolders and 2,500 fixed stock.
