Aluminum Blazer cases ???

I find it interesting that the ammo companies now produce these cases with boxer primer pockets. All the original aluminum cased ammo I saw had berdan style primers which pretty much precluded reloading them. I'm not sure why they've gone to boxer but despite saying "don't reload them" they sure make it easy to do given that standard primers will fit.
 
ted_dent said:
I find it interesting that the ammo companies now produce these cases with boxer primer pockets. All the original aluminum cased ammo I saw had berdan style primers which pretty much precluded reloading them. I'm not sure why they've gone to boxer but despite saying "don't reload them" they sure make it easy to do given that standard primers will fit.
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i suspect it's the same tooling for making the cases (they might go through the tooling quicker vs brass) but the main thing is they don't have to make or order berdan primers which i'm sure saves on costs for them.
 
Everything's fine until it goes sideways. My eyes, hands and firearms mean more to me then saving a couple bucks. Reloading is safe until we step outside common safe practises. Can you load handgun and rifle rounds and constantly exceed max loads, sure, but when does it come back and bite you in the butt.
 
i have a little more faith in most reloaders common sense,,,i'll bet you MORE accidents happen to people experimenting with crazy loads in brass cases than to guys reloading aluminum cases,,they are smart enough to know NOT to try to get max loads out of aluminum cases,,,common sense,,,
 
I've been tempted to try it for kicks but really, any ammo manufactured with an aluminum case is plentiful in the brass version anyway so, why bother?
 
as always,,you must use common sense if you try it,,light loads and only load them once and throw them out is what i do...people shouldn't even think of using hot loads in aluminum cases,,,so use your head and be safe,,
 
Hmmm companies who manufacture ammo and decide to use aluminum to cut costs, state "Don't use for reloading". They have million of dollars of equipment to test their products, and must have tried reloading some just for the hell of it, state it's not a good idea. Mean while on some web site a group of people who need to look at the instruction to set the clock on their microwave, state " Go for it no problem." Common sense would be not to bother. When one of these basement ballistic engineers write their own reloading manual, and have lab results to show their findings I'll buy in, until then stick to brass.
 
then again some of us dont sit back and listen to everything we read on the internet,,and like to experiment,,,we use common sense...with your reasoning NOTHING in the world would ever advance,,some choose to only do what they are told,,,other might be more adventurous and try new things,,,,so reloading aluminum is not recomended by the manufacturer because they cant control what some nut might do,,,so a blanket statement is easier and safer,,,plus,,every box reloaded is a box THEY DIDNT SELL,,if i listened to everything i was told not to do in my life,,i'd have to sit on the couch 24 hours a day,,,LOL...so yes manufaturers dont want you to reload aluminum,,yes many people do reload it,,is it the right thing for you,,,only you can be the judge of that,,,but like anything else,,do your research before doing anything involving explosive powders,,
 
grumpyold said:
Hmmm companies who manufacture ammo and decide to use aluminum to cut costs, state "Don't use for reloading". They have million of dollars of equipment to test their products, and must have tried reloading some just for the hell of it, state it's not a good idea. Mean while on some web site a group of people who need to look at the instruction to set the clock on their microwave, state " Go for it no problem." Common sense would be not to bother. When one of these basement ballistic engineers write their own reloading manual, and have lab results to show their findings I'll buy in, until then stick to brass.
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did you know using reloaded ammo in a glock voids the warranty. they must have had alot of guns blow up with using reloads. clearly they spent alot of money testing this.

did you also know that in today's world you can sue someone for looking at you the wrong way... there is a saying called "cover your ass". if they didn't put non reloadable on it they would be sued to the nines by some idiot who reloaded them with ultra hot loads and had his gun mess up or get some gas blow back into his face from a case splitting.
 
Spawn-Inc said:
did you know using reloaded ammo in a glock voids the warranty. they must have had alot of guns blow up with using reloads. clearly they spent alot of money testing this.

did you also know that in today's world you can sue someone for looking at you the wrong way... there is a saying called "cover your ass". if they didn't put non reloadable on it they would be sued to the nines by some idiot who reloaded them with ultra hot loads and had his gun mess up or get some gas blow back into his face from a case splitting.
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Or more likely they didn't want to invest in testing AL cases if they could be reloaded safely and just said no to cover their butts and cheap out. That was their goal for using it in the first place, cheaper than brass.


I have some mild AL cases 9 mm with 3 and 4 reloads on them. Primer pockets loosen too fast for my liking. I like the recommendation of use them once and toss. YMMV and don't try because I said so

The case is there primarily to be a gas seal and AL works fine. As good as brass hell no. I guess we should stop reloading plastic shotgun shells. Heck, Activ used to make complete plastic SG hulls. Pressures in SG are not too far off mild 45acp. Soon we will see plastic cases 45 LOL
 
I never listen to anything on the internet, especially pertaining to reloading, and a host of other subjects, that I can not confirm through reliable sources. If anyone posting to this subject would care to supply the credible source they used to come to this decision to reload aluminum cases please feel free to supply it. Please post a source for new aluminum reload cases. You're correct that there are lots of things where we all have to take a chance and try something or break new ground, but not if there's a proven alternative. Once Thor came out of his cave with his new invention the round rolling thing know as the wheel, don't see people lining up to reinvent that. Saying ' if common sense is used everything fine' without prove, beyond 'I've done it and it has not cause a problem yet' is nonsense. I don't really care if someone wants to walk that fine line of safety your life, live it as you choose. This discussion is one more glaring reason any new reloader's should buy a few good reloading manuals, as you can not rely on anything you read on the internet and it is the last place you should be looking for reloading info.
 
Hey there fellas ,,,,,, didnt mean to start an argument ,,, I was just looking to see if people were loading these cases and what type of expieriences they had.

I certainly would NOT try to load any 9mm major P.F. IE.. 125 grn bullet @ 1375 FPS in these cases ........... Yes i have loaded and shot those !!!!!
those loads beat up the best of new brass cases !!!! load them once and forget them .

I am not new to loading ......... about 35 yrs ive been doing this,,,
I load and shoot alot of wildcat rifle stuff also ,,,,

I have spent alot of time reaserching loading aluminum cases and havent found much info ,,

so my conclusion so far from this discussion ........ not to much expierience with loading aluminum cases
but the ones that have done say the same thing ,,,,,
primer pockets get loose after 3 or 4 loadings

my plan was to load them once and leave them where they land

I guess its time to call the Experts at the powder and bullet companies .....

Thanks fellas ....... Best regards and straight shooting !!!!!!!!!!
 
hootguy said:
"we bother",,because we can LOL..and it beats the hell out of picking cases from the snow,,
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Well the point I was trying to make was if you are just looking for disposable cases for light loads, then there are plenty of brass cases laying around at any range. One would expect that even well used brass pick-ups have to have less unknowns than once-fired aluminum.
 
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