Am I about to make the worse decision ever? Do I do it? All for one?
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RGV,
Allow me to clarify. In situations where carrying the long gun are not feasible. I in no way meant "don't bring it". I meant that you are not physically carrying it at the ready or slung. Strapping a long gun to your pack makes access difficult but not impossible.
Again, fighting your way to your long gun is something that may or may not require the use of your sidearm. Naturally any situation that requires the use of your sidearm will be your focus. At any point if there is an opportunity to retrieve your long gun than that is when you "fight your way back". You could be firing your sidearm or not.
An encounter in thick brush/steep terrain etc etc, is not going to go well in the best cases. If you must leave your long gun elsewhere, or attached to your pack then so be it. Any encounter with only your sidearm will be a tough go regardless of calibre. Deciding to do away with your long gun entirely, due to special situations or circumstances is negligent in my opinion. Bring the long gun and carry it whenever possible.
Different tools for different jobs. You can pound nails with a screwdriver, but you can't turn screws with a hammer.
TDC
Allow me to clarify. In situations where carrying the long gun are not feasible. I in no way meant "don't bring it". I meant that you are not physically carrying it at the ready or slung. Strapping a long gun to your pack makes access difficult but not impossible.
Again, fighting your way to your long gun is something that may or may not require the use of your sidearm. Naturally any situation that requires the use of your sidearm will be your focus. At any point if there is an opportunity to retrieve your long gun than that is when you "fight your way back". You could be firing your sidearm or not.
An encounter in thick brush/steep terrain etc etc, is not going to go well in the best cases. If you must leave your long gun elsewhere, or attached to your pack then so be it. Any encounter with only your sidearm will be a tough go regardless of calibre. Deciding to do away with your long gun entirely, due to special situations or circumstances is negligent in my opinion. Bring the long gun and carry it whenever possible.
Different tools for different jobs. You can pound nails with a screwdriver, but you can't turn screws with a hammer.
TDC
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My guess is that he'll hit you in the back of the neck or head. Toss up as to weather it would be with the jaws or a paw. Either way it's lights out....
Bob
This is probably true but if the animal is running it would be difficult for him to rear up behind you without you noticing as he would probably have to slow down. I am in no way saying that the grizzly is predictable, but if you do survive the intial beating I would still want the big gun
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- Peace River, Alberta
Bear Charge
I believe that more than likely, the charge from either the front or back would come so fast and without you noticing in advance most of the time. The point of impact would as well be generally a nice gently nudge with a shoulder if a grizz could gently nudge you so to speak. He would basically plow you down, turn around if not already on top of you and then jump on you or attack at the belly.
This is why I prefer to and do carry the pistol. At least the pistol is at its handiest postion-that being on my side. Lying on my stomach or back, I can reach to grab it. With a longarm slung over my shoulder or carrying in my hand, after the initial attack the longarm might be several feet to several metres away from my person, where the pistol is still in its holster on my side. If the longarm is in a scabbord over my back, I would have to physically get at least on my knees to pull it over my head.
At this point too, I would not be thinking of power of a longarm over my pistol, I would be concerned with waiting for the bear to be at the point of contact which is about 30' or less for me.
This is probably true but if the animal is running it would be difficult for him to rear up behind you without you noticing as he would probably have to slow down. I am in no way saying that the grizzly is predictable, but if you do survive the intial beating I would still want the big gun
I believe that more than likely, the charge from either the front or back would come so fast and without you noticing in advance most of the time. The point of impact would as well be generally a nice gently nudge with a shoulder if a grizz could gently nudge you so to speak. He would basically plow you down, turn around if not already on top of you and then jump on you or attack at the belly.
This is why I prefer to and do carry the pistol. At least the pistol is at its handiest postion-that being on my side. Lying on my stomach or back, I can reach to grab it. With a longarm slung over my shoulder or carrying in my hand, after the initial attack the longarm might be several feet to several metres away from my person, where the pistol is still in its holster on my side. If the longarm is in a scabbord over my back, I would have to physically get at least on my knees to pull it over my head.
At this point too, I would not be thinking of power of a longarm over my pistol, I would be concerned with waiting for the bear to be at the point of contact which is about 30' or less for me.
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Yah that was my thought john, not to mention it is easier to carry.
I would get a SRH in 454 Casull like Camp Cook, shortened up......or as mentioned earlier find a S&W 460V (like I have). Then you can choose 45 Colt, 454, 200gr 460 or 300gr 460. The 460 with the right load packs a punch very near a 45-70.
That said, the 454 SRH C.C. has is one nice looking pistola.
That said, the 454 SRH C.C. has is one nice looking pistola.
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I know it sucks, but stay the course and save up.
Selling a gun(s) is always something you'll regret later on!
Selling a gun(s) is always something you'll regret later on!
I like, I like....... but one less round
I would get a SRH in 454 Casull like Camp Cook, shortened up......or as mentioned earlier find a S&W 460V (like I have). Then you can choose 45 Colt, 454, 200gr 460 or 300gr 460. The 460 with the right load packs a punch very near a 45-70.
That said, the 454 SRH C.C. has is one nice looking pistola.
