American Mosin Nagants?
- Thread starter wiking
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As marks 36 hamon said, the pattern of the rifle was changed to the later design through factory rebuild.
The American MN's were not lend/lease. They were ordered by the Czarist gov't but many were not delivered, due to the Russians defaulting on payment.
That really depends on the individual rifle's condition. I prefer the later pattern sights of the 91/30 and M38/44 to those on the M91. There's no reason an M91 won't shoot as well as a later rifle in the same condition.
Bore condition and overall rifle condition will determine how well it shoots.
Bore condition and overall rifle condition will determine how well it shoots.
I've got an N.E.W. M91, Finn captured. They're great rifles, loaded with history and accurate to boot. For $150, you can't go wrong. What are apparently some of the last M39's are coming into the states right now-they are incredible! I would say that the M39 is the zenith of Mosin design.
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I thought I read 33" barrel...
That means a longer barrel that the original M-91 which is 31 1/2"
If the rifle is full-wood, just jump on it: it is certainly interesting.
If it has been worked over by the Finns, jump on it TWICE!
ANY Remington or NEW (New England Westinghouse) Mosin in good shape is a collectible and a good shooter too.
Original wood is american walnut unless the stock has been replaced by a Finn spliced design. In that case, wood is arctic birch, which can be quite spectacular sometimes.
Get it; if you don't like it, just PM me, I'll be happy to give you your money back!
PP.
That means a longer barrel that the original M-91 which is 31 1/2"
If the rifle is full-wood, just jump on it: it is certainly interesting.
If it has been worked over by the Finns, jump on it TWICE!
ANY Remington or NEW (New England Westinghouse) Mosin in good shape is a collectible and a good shooter too.
Original wood is american walnut unless the stock has been replaced by a Finn spliced design. In that case, wood is arctic birch, which can be quite spectacular sometimes.
Get it; if you don't like it, just PM me, I'll be happy to give you your money back!
PP.
MN 1891 made in the USA
Russia in 1917 has subcontracted huuge amounts of these rifles from the US manufacturers Westighouse being one of them. At the time the Russian inspectors were extremely dissapointed with the quality of the rifles made by the US non-arm manufacturers in comparission with their own production. THis was then, nowdays Westinghouse made 1891 MNs are a quite rare especially if they have the original walnut stock, as most have the fingerspliced birch (SA)
Russia in 1917 has subcontracted huuge amounts of these rifles from the US manufacturers Westighouse being one of them. At the time the Russian inspectors were extremely dissapointed with the quality of the rifles made by the US non-arm manufacturers in comparission with their own production. THis was then, nowdays Westinghouse made 1891 MNs are a quite rare especially if they have the original walnut stock, as most have the fingerspliced birch (SA)
Actually that's not completely correct. The first batch arrived to Russia from States in 1915 and quality was not acceptable, rifles were not sent to fighting army but to arsenal for repairs.
Russian government decided to sent quality inspectors and technical support specialists to States. Acceptable quality was achieved in the end of 1916.
Westinghaus and Remington were about 1.5 years late to fulfill their contract and Russian government bought some quantities of Winchester 1895 made specially for Russia in 7.62x54R to fill the gap.
In 1917 Russian revolution happened and some part of US order was not payed for and hence not delivered.
Those rifles were used in US later for training and sold to other countries, including Finland.
Since Finland was part of Russia till 1917 part of US-made rifles was in Finland prior to 1917. Other Mosin rifles were bought from States and other countries during 1920-30 and later captured in 1940 winter war.
I would certainly be interested in knowing what the defects were given the relatively advanced state of US metalworking compared to Russian. In addition, the mosin is a anvil compared to a lever gun so it would be interesting to see what "repairs" the arsenals did to them. Resighting maybe but anything else sounds like political crap to me.
