American with Guns moving to Canada

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MrSquatch

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Hi Y'all. I am a retired Federal Law Enforcement Officer with the U.S. Coast Guard and I have 2 shotguns, a rifle, and a Glock 36 .45 caliber handgun. I have a concealed carry permit and I carry my Glock all the time.

I will be moving (back) to Canada soon and I'm wondering if I can bring my Glock with me. It's an awesome handgun and the single stack makes it a great concealable personal defense weapon. I use the Safari hip holster for tactical and safety reasons.

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to bring it and store it in my new B.C. home? Have the new gun register laws gone into affect yet? I read that Canadians will no longer have to register there guns with the Federal Gov't.

Obviously I can't carry it with me like I can here. I'd love to because I'm trained to and I think that people with concealed carry permits are outstanding citizens that can be trusted to carry a personal defense weapon.

Thank you for any comments and suggestions.

MrSquatch
 
With the proper paperwork you should be fine as long as the guns all qualify as Non-restricted or Restricted. I will let sombody with more knowlege then me chime in on this.

The gun registry is not gone yet, but it will be soon. It is only affecting Non-restricted guns! Handguns will remain registered.
 
call 1.800.731.4000 that's the Canadian firearms center number. Just so you know, the laws haven't passed up here yet for the "no registration" and that's getting some debate. Handguns will always be registered and the RCMP are reclassifying firearms, so certain long guns will still have to be registered :(
 
you will have to register your handguns as that registry will continue to exist. the long gun resgistry is still around but should be gone in a couple months.

in canada we have 3 classifications of firearms, non-restricted, restricted and prohibited. Assuming none of your guns are prohibs, you will need to obtain a non restricted posession and aquisition lisence and a restricted possession and aquisition lisence. both are easy to obtain by calling the BC CFO and asking for the name of a CFSC instructor close to where ever is convenient for you.

Im not clear on how you import your firearms but I have issued the CFSC to quite a few folks like you over the years and none of them complained too much about the process.
 
First thing you'll need to do is get your Canadian Firearms Licence or PAL.
(Possession and Acquisition Licence)
You will want a Restricted PAL so you may possess a handgun in Canada.
You can do this even if you're not a citizen or living here.
Good place to start:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/information/visit/index-eng.htm

You will need to export and import your firearms and have them verified in Canada.
Then, all firearms will need to be registered, unless the long arm registry is gone by then... but you will still need to register your restricted handgun.
There are a few business out there that will take care of the export, import, verifying and registering for you.

http://store.prophetriver.com/pages/Importing.html

http://www.borderview.com/

Borderview will even drive it to the border in BC for you to meet them if you want. It's about $250 for the first firearm and $100 I think for each one after. (Don't quote me)

Once your long arms are in the country legally you're good to go as long as you obey proper storage laws and keep your license up to date etc...
Your handgun gets a bit more complicated.
You'll need to belong to a gun club and obtain an ATT. (Authorization To Transport) to move it from one place to another. (It's a little piece of paper that says you're allowed to)
You're right, no concealed carry or any carry whatsoever...
An ATT only allows you to move it from home and to gun clubs/ranges/gunsmiths etc...
You'll need a temp ATT just to move it from the border or to your house when it arrives in Canada.

You might also want to study up a bit on your rights and the law here pertaining to your firearms. It's quite wrong here right now, but that's just my opinion.

Hope this was helpful and will get you started.
Welcome to CGN, all of your answers are within these pages somewhere.

Reg
 
MrSquatch said:
it a great concealable personal defense weapon. I use the Safari hip holster for tactical and safety reasons.
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There will be background checks when you obtain your Restricted(handgun) license. If you or any of your references so much as mention "Defensive" or "personal Defense" or ANYTHING similar they WILL NOT issue your permit. The RCMP does not consider self-defense a lawful reason to own a firearm. You will also be required to have an active membership to a government-sanctioned gun club or shooting range. Welcome back to Soviet Canada.

Sorry for the negative sentiment, I share your views on CCW as do many others on this site. Good luck and enjoy your stay on CGN!

Cheers.
 
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MrSquatch said:
Hi Y'all. I am a retired Federal Law Enforcement Officer with the U.S. Coast Guard and I have 2 shotguns, a rifle, and a Glock 36 .45 caliber handgun. I have a concealed carry permit and I carry my Glock all the time. I will be moving (back) to Canada soon and I'm wondering if I can bring my Glock with me. It's an awesome handgun and the single stack makes it a great concealable personal defense weapon. I use the Safari hip holster for tactical and safety reasons. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to bring it and store it in my new B.C. home? Have the new gun register laws gone into affect yet? I read that Canadians will no longer have to register there guns with the Federal Gov't. Obviously I can't carry it with me like I can here. I'd love to because I'm trained to and I think that people with concealed carry permits are outstanding citizens that can be trusted to carry a personal defense weapon. Thank you for any comments and suggestions.
MrSquatch
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Importing Firearms, Ammunition and Parts from the USA
<http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51554>

US DOS DDTC Homepage
<http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/>

ATF Firearms Enforcement
<http://www.atf.gov/firearms/enforcement/>

ATF F 5320.9 (Form 9) — Application and Permit for Permanent Exportation of Firearms
<http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5320-9.pdf>

DFAIT Firearms, Related Goods and Ammunition
<http://www.international.gc.ca/controls-controles/firearms_armes_a_feu/index.aspx?menu_id=16>

CBSA Memorandum D19-13-2 Importing and Exporting Firearms, Weapons and Devices
<http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d19/d19-13-2-eng.html>

CBSA Importing a Firearm or Weapon Into Canada
<http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5044-eng.html>

Glock 36 would be inadmissible unless it had a barrel that is 106mm long or longer. (The OEM barrel is too short to be admissible. It would be prohibited by law.)
Aftermarket barrels (such as Bar-Sto, EFK, IGB, Lone Wolf, and Storm Lake) are available that will enable your Glock 36 to be classified as restricted (rather than prohibited).

Your rifle and shotguns may or may not be admissible in their current configuration or at all, depending upon what they are. (They may be fall into the category of antique, non-restricted, restricted, or prohibited.) If you are more specific, we can be more specific.

Prohibited Firearms
<http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/prohibited-prohibe-eng.htm>

Restricted Firearms
<http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/restr-eng.htm>

Visitors / Non-Residents
<http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/information/visit/index-eng.htm>

Firearm Owners Moving to Canada
Fact Sheet
<http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/moving-emmenager-eng.htm>

Fact Sheets concerning the Firearms Act
<http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/index-eng.htm>

Sadly, your LEO credentials will not be of much use to you in this matter.
 
Say goodbye to your CCW permit. No such animal exists here in this country. Besides, you don't need one here, this is Canada!
 
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