Ammo legality?

Iceman_Chris

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Hi,

I was just wondering about different types of ammo and their legality in Canada. I know that armor piercing bullets are illegal in Canada but are AP bullets just full metal jacket or what? My instructor for the firearm license only said that you can't use full metal jacket bullets for hunting. Can you even get them in Canada?

Excuse my lack of knowledge in this area but I am just kind of curious...

Thanks, Chris
 
full metal jackets (FMJ) are not illegal, in fact most ammo you buy is FMJ (9mm at least)...

AP bullets usually have a metal core called "penetrator"(?) inside
 
AP will have a tungsten core. Steel cores are found in all kinds of ammo. Only handgun cartridges designed to penetrate body armour are banned as prohibited ammunition, all else is OK. So your steel core 7.62x25, which will zip through most vests, is fine as it was not designed to.
 
My PAL instructor told us that FMJ's like my stash of Norinco grey box 7.62x39 was only legal to shoot at a range. ie no plinking in the bush.

It makes sense as these rounds from my SKS could go a long way. Is this restriction in the regs?
 
FMJ's are legal to shoot with and most "AP" small arms ammunition in World War 2 and Korea era calibers have a steel core.

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It really is incredible what gets passed off as fact or law by these so called "instructors"
How can new shooters trust anything they are told by people they are supposed to learn from?
Wow.

Ahab.
 
geologist said:
My PAL instructor told us that FMJ's like my stash of Norinco grey box 7.62x39 was only legal to shoot at a range. ie no plinking in the bush.

It makes sense as these rounds from my SKS could go a long way. Is this restriction in the regs?
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That's why I hate listening to Hunter Ed instructors who crossed over to CFSC instructors.:mad:

I was asked to instruct a group out of the Maple center as the CFSC was being introduced. I recommended that 25% of the "Veteran" instructor not teach the program. Being incredibly opinionated and incredibly stupid is a bad combination. Some of the gun handling was so awful that I had a hard time believing they were used to handling long guns.
 
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Stevo said:
Incendiary/explosive ammo is also prohibited. AP rifle and tracer is perfectly legal.
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The CFSC book said that only exsplosive and incendiary ammo under 15mm was prohibited.

So are grenade launchers concidered firearms?
 
I'm not a hunter myself, but is it possible that there are hunting regulations requiring softnose bullets rather than FMJ for hunting?
 
Almost all rifle ammo penetrates body armor from up to 500 yards. Beyond that it depends.
If it does not penetrate, then whatever is inside the armor may not live after impact anyway.

Iceman_Chris said:
I know that armor piercing bullets are illegal in Canada but are AP bullets just full metal jacket or what? My instructor for the firearm license only said that you can't use full metal jacket bullets for hunting. Can you even get them in Canada?
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MrFritz said:
I'm not a hunter myself, but is it possible that there are hunting regulations requiring softnose bullets rather than FMJ for hunting?
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Most provinces have laws that prohibit hunting most species with non-expanding ammuntion (read: FMJ). I believe there may be exceptions for small game and/or trappers.
 
In many cases, you would WANT to use non FMJ bullets for hunting - you want the bullet to expend all it's force on impact, not go straight through the target and beyond, messing up almost all the hunting ammo I've ever bought was non-FMJ of some sort.
 
The list of prohibited ammo is in Part5 of this link, if it's not listed here it is not prohibited or illegal.


http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cm/d19-13-2/d19-13-2-06-e.html

PART 5
PROHIBITED AMMUNITION
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 10

1. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a commonly available semi-automatic handgun or revolver and that is manufactured or assembled with a projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour, including KTW, THV and 5.7 × 28 mm P-90 cartridges.

2. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered to ignite on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

3. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to explode on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

4. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a shotgun and that contains projectiles known as "fléchettes" or any similar projectiles.
 
Its not that fmj for your sks is prohibited here in BC its that a CO finding you in the bush may assume you are hunting with them and charge you for that.
Yes i have been checked and they looked at my ammo specifically for fmj and that was for my 30-30 so i only carry softpoints for my sks in the bush(for coyotes not grizzlies) and leave the fmj for the range.Its not worth taking the time to argue about it to a judge.
 
My instructor said specifically that FMJ's from an SKS was illegal to shoot informally at a gravel pit on crown land,

He backed that up by saying that only at an approved range with an approved backstop could you use FMJ's.

Guess he didn't know what he was talking about on that one.
 
geologist said:
My instructor said specifically that FMJ's from an SKS was illegal to shoot informally at a gravel pit on crown land,

He backed that up by saying that only at an approved range with an approved backstop could you use FMJ's.

Guess he didn't know what he was talking about on that one.
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There's a term for guys like that, it's 'windbag'. I would seriously take it as a responsibilty of mine to call this guy up and correct him, politely, as he'll be spreading this crud to new students he has in the future.
 
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