AMMO Storage Question

Surplus CZ 7.62 x 39 mm ammo is soldered and sealed in a GI sheet can. That should be secure enough. It is harder to open this can than to pry open a cheap Yale padlock. I have enough trouble opening the darned thing.
 
easyrider604 said:
Surplus CZ 7.62 x 39 mm ammo is soldered and sealed in a GI sheet can. That should be secure enough. It is harder to open this can than to pry open a cheap Yale padlock. I have enough trouble opening the darned thing.
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lol a little too overkill for me. saving it for a rainy day?
 
Originally Posted by Ftaview View Post
So I have....

a small room in the basement under the stairs, it has shelves, these shelves hold my hunting gear, target shooting gear, papers, magazines, and ammunition, in original boxes, some in plastic boxes, including flats of shotgun shells, rifle, and pistol ammo included.

In this same room are my rifles, shot guns, each with a trigger lock, each in a case, and each case has at leat 2 padlocks on it, also on the floor is a safe, which holds the pistols.

Now access to this room is by one door, that has a lockable door handle, key is kept in a location I only know about, I am the only licensed person in the house.

Based on all that I have read, and all that I can understand and interpert

I am good to go ??????????

Right ???

one wall is made of cinder block, one is drywall, with studs spaced every 6 inches, you have to be really skinny to get through, basement has very small windows maybe a 2 year old can get through them....

This should suffice

or

Do I go and buy a big metal box, that is lockable, stick it in the room as well and dump all the ammo into it, lock it, and then I really would have nothing to worry about, but talk about a waste of money, buying even more box's

What you all say....?
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colin455 said:
You have done better than some already. A couple of small changes might help. A 'double key deadbolt' on the door would prevent someone from opening the door in the event they did manage to gain entry and a metal supply cabinet (the kind offices use to lock up pens, sticky's and such) would be great for the ammo. Large, steel and locking. Won't stop determined, but will stop casual thieves.
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Thanks....

the last time the lock door knob malfunctioned, it took me over an hour to get it off and removed so I could open the door, even removing the pins in the hinges did not allow the door to open.

I cannot put in any more of anything into this room, it's not that big and it doubles as a place for storage of other items, some hockey gear, sleeping bags, odds and sods, all of which if anyone needs any of the stuff, they have to ask me as I only have the keys to the room.

I also thought of a metal cabinet or toolbox of some sort for the ammo, but then again, I don't see that much effort at any of the stores, so I think I am fairly safe, also considering the whole family has been taught on firearm safety, and usage.

Next house I will build a whole room dedicated to my hobby.....
 
i would love to have a dedicated room for this fine hobby. It's really nice to not have to lock everything up in cabinets all the time.
 
florin79 said:
i would love to have a dedicated room for this fine hobby. It's really nice to not have to lock everything up in cabinets all the time.
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You want one of these!

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Sorry to revive an old thread, but as a newbie I do have some questions. I have a shotgun and rifle. Both have trigger locks installed. Both are stored in a gun cabinet. Question here is can I store my ammo in the same locked gun cabinet as both of my trigger locked non restricted firearms?

I live in a small apartment so there isn't much room to place my ammo in one side of the house and my guns on another side...advise would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
Ibi said:
Sorry to revive an old thread, but as a newbie I do have some questions. I have a shotgun and rifle. Both have trigger locks installed. Both are stored in a gun cabinet. Question here is can I store my ammo in the same locked gun cabinet as both of my trigger locked non restricted firearms?

I live in a small apartment so there isn't much room to place my ammo in one side of the house and my guns on another side...advise would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Yes you can. As long as the Firearms aren't loaded.
 
i choose to store all ammo in a fireproof safe not because of the law but because of a fire and the implications that lose ammo will have in a severe fire.
 
Old thread but there is a couple threads about ammo in fires..... You'd be surprised at how it reacts when not in a chamber that restricts the shell from expanding! :)
 
All laws are written like that. Only the courts can define what is and is not considered reasonable too. That will not keep you from getting charged though. Downside is that it leaves the interpretation up to a cop's discretion.
A loaded mag in a safe can't get any more secure. Same mag in an unlocked bedside table drawer is evil.
 
I have 7 boxes of 20ga just laying in a box by my gun safe because I have no place to lock it. Maybe in the safe seeig as I dont own anything in 20ga
 
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Crossbones said:
I keep ammo and firearms in the same room but locked in separate cabinets. Though I have a magazine loaded and sitting beside my pistol in the locked cabinet. I hope I'm alright after reading the confusing excerpt.
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Yes you are even in the video we have for the RPAL which dates from the late 60 but that's still what they show you in the classroom the guy in the vid stores his ammo in the same locked cabinet so if someone tells you you cant show them this vid 4:30 to 6:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1Bd48DWyxQ&list=FLC6BZ_Aom2A-V98QyL0ydDQ&index=1
 
I'm not a LEO but in security we deal with a lot of the same verbatim as this. The big reason for the "Vague" terminology is that the court has not as of yet had to defend the verbatim. Until such a time as the law is contested it will remain unchanged and personal "common-sense" will be the deciding factor. If the court comes into a position where someone misinterpreted the phrases to badly and in return an incident was caused then they may add a supplement to the clause.

In this case for storage of guns and ammo there are many possibilities. While personally I would keep my Guns and ammo Separately they can be kept together as long as they are locked. The big idea is that if someone comes rushing into my house I cant just grab an already loaded firearm off the side table and fire off shots as a "Weapon of opportunity" I have to unlock the firearm first and this gives the court the "Intent" that is the center of most court cases. Because I purposely unlocked the firearm for the use in this situation.

In a different Scenario If I have ammo placed in the closet of my house and a child can get access to them and ends up getting hurt this would be considered Criminal Negligence. Where-as if I had placed that same box on the top shelf out of the child's reach and it still managed to get them you could argue that it as not Negligence as the "Intent" was to keep it out of reach and reasonable steps were taken to ensure it remained that way. AKA: top shelf out of reach.

A lot of it comes down to the reason and your intent for why it is placed where it is.

If I am wrong on any point please inform me. This is my interpretation based off my personal experience.
 
I see ammo sitting in shelves in gun stores. The ammo isn't locked. I assume that the gun store is locked when there is nobody there at night.

If this is safe storage of ammo then why can't a person who lives alone leave ammo in the basement of a locked house with an alarm system?
 
Old thread but I found this, and I "think" it applies.

https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/explosives/acquisition-storage-sale/9833

Ammunition
Small Arms Cartridges, also known as ammunition, are an assembly of primers, propellant powders, metal casings and bullets used to fire a projectile from firearms. (Type C.1)

Acquisition
The acquisition, storage and sale of propellants and ammunition require a dwelling, a storage unit or an explosives licence depending on the quantity and type of explosives being handled. Any person handling explosives must be at least 18 years of age or older unless otherwise exempted by the Explosives Act and Regulations.

Storage for Use
Dwelling
A person may acquire and store up to 225 kilograms net explosives quantity of ammunition for use in a dwelling.

When small arms cartridges are stored in a dwelling:

they must be stored away from flammable substances and sources of ignition. People not authorized by the retailer (<that is the weird part) must not be given unlimited access to the cartridges.
 
Get an amo ox at Cabelas for $14 and lock it. It's a hard box designed for ammo and you put a pad lock on it. Roll it up in a carpet and put it in he closet. Don't tell anyone,
 
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