AMP Annealer

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I wanted to share this story for anyone interested. It may help someone make a decision on an annealer. For the last year or two I have been salt bath annealing. Does it work? I don't know, but I did it anyway as it seemed to work for me. But I am somewhat of a klutz and was never 100% comfortable with the whole molten salt thing. So I decided to do some research and purchase a different style of annealer.

And let me tell you, people are crazy. If someone even suggests that that one type, salt, flame, or induction, is as good or better than another type people lose their minds. Okay maybe not lose their minds, but some of them sure get defensive. Salt bath was out for me so I weighed the pros and cons of flame and induction annealing.

Flame was definitely the more economical way to go. There are some machines that you fill up a hopper and let it run, they feed the brass automatically. That's a nice touch. But still has variables and needs adjustment for each different caliber. And there is the propane that I'm sure would run out for me at the most inopportune time. I like things idiot proof. I'm not saying I'm an idiot but....... I am a klutz. ;)

Induction annealing seemed like the way to go for me. I looked at the Annie annealer. It seems like a decent machine. But like flame annealing it has variables (time) that you have to mess around with and I can screw up. Plus you have to come up with some kind of system for adjusting either the height of the cartridge or the machine for each caliber. People say the water cooled induction coil is the way to go but that just seems like more of a hassle to me. Not huge headaches, but not idiot proof. So I looked at the AMP Annealer. Great reviews and the guys that have them seem to love them. Best part was it's idiot proof. Even I would have to try to screw things up. But the price was a big drawback. I'm not a top competitive shooter, just a guy who is on a quest to put 5 rounds through the smallest hole I can. After much contemplation I bit the bullet and ordered an AMP.

I received the unit and started with annealing some 223 brass. And I can confirm it is about as idiot proof as it gets. It analyzes the brass and gives you the correct setting for annealing it. Right now I have some Winchester, Nosler, and Federal brass in 223. I analyzed each brand and each gave me a slightly different setting. To see if its analyses was consistent I annealed some of the Winchester and then analyzed each brand again. And sure enough the settings for each one was the same as it gave me the first time. The actual annealing is very quick, and though I didn't time myself, I had 100 pieces annealed in no time. Also did some 308 and it worked just as well.

So far I am impressed with the machine. Sure it's a big investment, no argument there. But it sure seems to work extremely well. And like I said earlier it is dead simple to set up and should give consistent, repeatable results. Just the way I like things, idiot proof. If anyone is interested I can post updates if I run into any issues.
 
Love that, but... Yeesh. That's about a $2,500 set-up?

Did you get the robotic feeder?

No I didn't get the feeder. I enjoy sitting at my bench doing stuff like this. It's relaxation therapy for me.

The machine, 3 pilots for my calibers, and shipping was right around $2,000.
 
No I didn't get the feeder. I enjoy sitting at my bench doing stuff like this. It's relaxation therapy for me.

The machine, 3 pilots for my calibers, and shipping was right around $2,000.

I bought the first model that came out and with all of the accessories I'm certain it was around $1200....FS
 
Thanks for this comparison.

I've been trying to decide myself and so far have borrowed a friends torch version and it works well but have to be outdoors and I try to do most of my prep work over the winter when I'm not so busy, I don't feel comfortable with open flames in the house..... call me paranoid.

Very seriously looking at the AMP but the price was holding me back.... might have to bite the bullet and order one.

JJ

JJ
 
I would love to have one. From what I’ve read and heard they are the way to go. But I can’t justify the cost yet. So the salt bath is for me. I haven’t done a full on study but I can tell the difference on paper.
I make sure I rinse the brass a bunch of times to get the salt off. I have the same concerns about corrosion, but I can say it’s never been a problem.
Joe
 
Looks convenient for sure. I’m more of a diy kinda guy (cheapskate). Building a cake pan torch version currently. Super simple though. $30 worth of eBay electronics/sprockets/belts. I know it’s part of the process, but I even struggle with destroying a piece of brass to set the parameters... (cheapskate)...
 
I also tried the 3 methods.

Started with my Annealeez torch setup, Was easy to set up, but when using for extended periods of time you have to adjust torch constantly as the flame changes slightly during a session.
Also being in a 100% finished gun room, I am not liking the idea of torches in my room.

Then switched to salt bath.
It seemed consistent, but being in a liquid and hot state, I did it in my plumbing shop a few KMs from home.
Since I usually drink when I brass process, this was a double no-no as I had to drive back from my shop and am handling a dangerous annealing method.

Now been with AMP for a few months.
Love the machine, fits perfectly well in a 100% basement.
It was expensive though, which can make it a luxury for many people, myself included if we we're 2-3 years ago, my business has really picked up and was a gift I treated myself with.

Here is AMP annealing's blog bashing the molten salts method, which is totally biased so we don't know the truth to it.

https://www.ampannealing.com/articles/52/salt-bath-annealing--does-it-work-/
 
I picked up an AMP a couple years ago. Upgraded to Az tec mode when it was released. Super easy to use, my 3yr old son was helping me anneal. He loved to push the button. Great results and my accuracy has never been better in a wide variety of rifles
 
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