Mosin_redstar
CGN Regular
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- Eastern Ontario
Yes!!! Well played! Cudnt have said it better myself. These woke morons are hilarious.
An Interesting Email Indeed....
- Thread starter Dlask Arms
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Yes!!! Well played! Cudnt have said it better myself. These woke morons are hilarious.
Maybe they need to learn how to legally obtain and store a firearm first.
And maybe then they'll realize that all of Trudy's laws do nothing to stop illegal firearm acquisition/use.
By definition, criminals don't obey laws so why do they think implementing more laws will solve anything.
And maybe then they'll realize that all of Trudy's laws do nothing to stop illegal firearm acquisition/use.
By definition, criminals don't obey laws so why do they think implementing more laws will solve anything.
...What the hell. The legal methods of obtaining firearms in Canada are available to the public from at least 2 sources, both of which are more official than anywhere else. It's awfully presumptuous and rude, at best, to even ask a reputable business about information regarding the illegal acquisition of the goods that said retailer deals in. Go ask the people that you know are acquiring firearms illegally. But nicely, so they don't shoot you. Lol
So, I emailed the lady responsible for that email along with a link to this thread. Not sure she knew CGN even existed before, but hopefully you guys emailing the ombudsman will make them all aware of it now.
Please be polite, woke as she may be, she is still a lady. If you hairy chested ,gun toting heathens don't scare her away then who knows, maybe she'll even have the cojones to say 'Hello'....
Please be polite, woke as she may be, she is still a lady. If you hairy chested ,gun toting heathens don't scare her away then who knows, maybe she'll even have the cojones to say 'Hello'....
That is my take on it. The person seems to be looking for information on both legal and illegal firearms, and you'd think people who make and sell firearms would be a perfect source for legal firearms information, and they might have some information about illegal firearms too. Seems to me most gun owners are privy to at least SOME information about illegal firearms - where they primarily come from at the very least.
But nah, lets just put another wrap of tinfoil on and jump head-first into the conspiracy pool...
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Because post secondary schooling institutions are almost universally governed by those whom share Marxist leninist doctrine. Watered down in public to leftist liberalism.
You know that ruling regime in Ottawa trying to steal our private property right now?
Co operation with the ignorant students doesn't mean any good with derive from it just because they offer u a coffee and a donut.
Maybe you missed this in the last three decades within Canada?
For all you know the conclusion of their research could be "Illegal guns are primarily sourced from outside the country and the Liberals are wasting money and resources targetting the wrong guns/people".
No.
She had no interest in talking about legal firearm ownership. She was nice enough but seemed to be under the impression that it was common knowledge that legal gun owners would have insights about illegal gun trafficking.
Send it to Gary Mauser.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/profile/gary-mauser
https://www.sfu.ca/~mauser/
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/profile/gary-mauser
https://www.sfu.ca/~mauser/
but of course we do ... any other way but "by the book" would be ...
and almost no one outside of the legal gun sellers/owners community has any clue what is "by the book",
including LEOs, prosecutors, safety ministers, members of the parliament, even some judges ..
Not at all. Did you read her email ? She stated in no uncertain terms that she thinks our customers are criminals and that if we would be so kind as to email said criminals she would reward them with a $20 gift card to reward them for their time.
You can't make this stuff up. It is insulting in the extreme to a company that has been vetted and federally licensed for over 34 years.
Then there is the question itself : Why exactly would a university care how are guns smuggled or illegally made in Canada ? Don't get me wrong, I am no tin hat idiot and certainly not for illegal guns. As a manufacturer and retailer we have a far big interest in stopping illegal guns than most civilians in this country. Without them we would actually (most likely anyways) be allowed to use our own legally purchased firearms because there wouldn't be anything for the Liberals to pounce upon.
I have far fewer letters behind my name than she does but let me lay it out in a nutshell :
We are a nation of smugglers and always have been. Booze in the 20's. Then guns, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, random Ebay purchases and on and on. Coupled with that fact we share the longest undefended border in the world with a neighbor that has the largest unregulated firearms market on the planet and this all equals = 4.
Who needs a Doctorate for that ?
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I'd like to think I'm more well informed than the OVERWHELMING majority of firearms owners, and I have literally ZERO idea where or how illegal firearms can be obtained. I make the normal assumptions (Smuggled across the border, the "black market", etc etc), but I don't know a single specific. If my life depended on going out and actually acquiring a firearm illegally tomorrow, I'd be sh!t outa luck, short of breaking into random homes, hoping someone had a firearm I could steal. But nobody needs me to tell them that B&E is an effective way of illegally obtaining things. And as such, I would be of no use to someone asking about illegal firearms. I assume this is the case for 99.9%+ of firearms owners in Canada, Dlask's customers included.
I think this is too much information. Do you actually know how to obtain at Jane & Finch? This is you admitting you DO know illegal firearms. When you don't actually "know" but you speculate, unless you have actually been there in person and purchased an illegal firearm yourself. See?
This is why Runkle says "don't say anything more than necessary" because you talk yourself right into a trap.
The first sentence is all you need to say. If wanted to provide information, just tell them facts like: "the local police force will have data on illegal firearms involved in crimes" because that's the reality. not speculation.
We have contacted you because many of your members may have experience with legal firearms, and perhaps knowledge about illegal firearms.
To be eligible to participate, members must meet these criteria:
3. Have knowledge about guns, including how they are bought, sold, or traded, legally and/or illegally, in British Columbia, OR
have been charged with or convicted of a weapons-related criminal offence.
To be eligible to participate, members must meet these criteria:
3. Have knowledge about guns, including how they are bought, sold, or traded, legally and/or illegally, in British Columbia, OR
have been charged with or convicted of a weapons-related criminal offence.
If they are so concerned about illegal firearms, they should contact the law enforcemet and try to obtain some of their data and statistics and interview them to find out how those investigations are performed or how the data they gather is tabulated and reported. What are they doing to meaningfully curb the smuggling.
They should study why the media fails to report on the problems associated with such illegal activities instead of trying to include law abiding citizens into that very small group of criminals.
They should have approached the industry stake holders at the onset of the study, to understand what concerns there may be and to better shape the study.
What premise or assumptions is the study based on and what results and outcomes they expect to achieve.
It sounds like a politically motivated program, designed by head of the department, aimed at fulfilling an agenda, left to undergrads to scramble for information in the wild, open to deriving wrong conclusions.
Many primary school projects have similar parameters, as long as you submit anything and show that work was done, it counts as valid and acceptable.
A recent study concluded that break and enters are motivated by food prices and fridge raids, thieves going after your electronics to fulfill their desire to play xbox, resell your jewelry for drugs and that you should lock your doors and install a security system.
They should study why the media fails to report on the problems associated with such illegal activities instead of trying to include law abiding citizens into that very small group of criminals.
They should have approached the industry stake holders at the onset of the study, to understand what concerns there may be and to better shape the study.
What premise or assumptions is the study based on and what results and outcomes they expect to achieve.
It sounds like a politically motivated program, designed by head of the department, aimed at fulfilling an agenda, left to undergrads to scramble for information in the wild, open to deriving wrong conclusions.
Many primary school projects have similar parameters, as long as you submit anything and show that work was done, it counts as valid and acceptable.
A recent study concluded that break and enters are motivated by food prices and fridge raids, thieves going after your electronics to fulfill their desire to play xbox, resell your jewelry for drugs and that you should lock your doors and install a security system.
Midnight Rider
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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Welcome to Trudeau's new Canada . Trudeau has been telling Canadians for 7 years how dangerous firearms , and firearm owners , are , and this is the result . If you repeat a lie often enough to the public , they will come to believe it as the truth.....propaganda 101 , and the Liberals are experts at it .
Yea I agree with this sentiment. It's a little tone deaf to imply that we may be breaking the law but honestly just give them the benefit of the doubt. They probably don't know all the hoops we jump through as legal gun owners. Dlask should just be the better person and let them know that the odds of having any of your customers dabble in illegal firearms is effectively nil and that asking you guys was the wrong direction to take.
