every year i drive out of town and camp on a relatives property to deer hunt. the land is rented out for agricultaral purposes to a a nieghbour who grows alfalfa, so it is a primo deer spot. the renter(s) are also deer hunters and this has led to a few tense moments when we've come face to face in the field unexpectedly.i've got the feelings from a few encounters that we are not wanted there, and also occasionally feel like i'm inconveincing someone, but i think i've got just a much right to hunt there as they do. also they have a few other sections that they can hunt on whereas we have this one quarter. so who do you think has the better claim on this spot?
an interesting problem-who's in the right?
- Thread starter kevin.303
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Give your relation a few hundred dollar bills ask him to put it towards the property taxes tell him ho much it means to you to have a place to hunt.
Drive out there every year BEFORE or AFTER deer season Fix a fence or patch a roof or dig a ditch.
The neighbouring leasees are disprespecting your relation by not giving you (his guest) the same respect he deserves.
Some ag renters don't understand they are not renting property rights they are renting dirt and air. at the same time you should be repsectful of the fact maintaining that alfalfa stand is a favor to your relations soil and to his tax assessment (ag rates)
Stop in on the neighbours on your way to your camp site drop off a stawberry pie and let them know you are there. Then if you have a chance encounter it will definetley be them who are in the wrong and you wont have to worry on it anymore.
Drive out there every year BEFORE or AFTER deer season Fix a fence or patch a roof or dig a ditch.
The neighbouring leasees are disprespecting your relation by not giving you (his guest) the same respect he deserves.
Some ag renters don't understand they are not renting property rights they are renting dirt and air. at the same time you should be repsectful of the fact maintaining that alfalfa stand is a favor to your relations soil and to his tax assessment (ag rates)
Stop in on the neighbours on your way to your camp site drop off a stawberry pie and let them know you are there. Then if you have a chance encounter it will definetley be them who are in the wrong and you wont have to worry on it anymore.
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Something to question, do the renters have permission to hunt there?
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- land of f-cktards
well If i rented land ...........and i didn't want people to hunt there it would be in the agreement....my 2cents
If the land is rented for agricultaral purposes and nothing in the agreement states "agricultaral purposes/Hunting" then they have no right to hunt the land with out permission from your relatives.
We had a simular issue where my dad rented land to be used for agricultaral purposes to a guy who lived a few roads over and his property backed on to my dads.
Well when deer season came about this douch come's marching to my tree stand and begins telling me he has the right to the land and I need to leave. I left my gun in the stand and got down to exchange some words he didnt like what I had to say and it quickly got physical and ended with my dad pulling me of this ####.
Needless to say he found out my dad had specificaly put in the contract "for agricultaral purposes only" and a part that said a breach of this condition would void the contract out right. We ended up with 100 acre's of corn and soy and he ended up with #### all along with a busted nose and a missing tooth.
now I dont agree with getting violent in a situation like this unless its in self defence but you dont need to be nice if they are being dicks. They have no right to the land other then farming unless other wise stated in the contract verbal or written.
We had a simular issue where my dad rented land to be used for agricultaral purposes to a guy who lived a few roads over and his property backed on to my dads.
Well when deer season came about this douch come's marching to my tree stand and begins telling me he has the right to the land and I need to leave. I left my gun in the stand and got down to exchange some words he didnt like what I had to say and it quickly got physical and ended with my dad pulling me of this ####.
Needless to say he found out my dad had specificaly put in the contract "for agricultaral purposes only" and a part that said a breach of this condition would void the contract out right. We ended up with 100 acre's of corn and soy and he ended up with #### all along with a busted nose and a missing tooth.
now I dont agree with getting violent in a situation like this unless its in self defence but you dont need to be nice if they are being dicks. They have no right to the land other then farming unless other wise stated in the contract verbal or written.
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It seems pretty obvious to me that your relatives own the land and can grant access to whoever they want. If there is an issue with the people that rent the land then I think you better resolve it with your relatives.
There should be a simple compromise there somewhere.
There should be a simple compromise there somewhere.
if it's a "general" rental of the land, then your relatives lost the ability to state what activities are done on it. Renters have rights too (and are recognized by courts and police).
The best way is to get all three of you together, and resolve it to everyone's satisfaction. A fight is not what is needed, and can be easily avoided.
The best way is to get all three of you together, and resolve it to everyone's satisfaction. A fight is not what is needed, and can be easily avoided.
swailmeister
CGN Regular
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- Southern, Ontario
WOW... we just gave permission to a farmer to plant fall wheat in the back field...where we hunt deer in the fall. No rental contract, no transfer of funds, just permission to use the land to grow his crops (word of mouth). I never thought that this could come back to haunt us. I thought that it would be a great advantage for us hunting, as well as a bonus for the farmer. He is a friend of a friend, and now that I read this story, I better get something in writting. All I need is to show up in deer season and have a half dozen guys sitting in our stands! We were just trying to do a local neighbor a favor, and in turn, a favour for us by attracting deer. I'm heading up there in the morning, better get something in writting. Thanks for the heads up! Never would of thought...
Republic of Alberta
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- ,location, location
Remember that most rural people have a tendency to size people up immediately and treat them accordingly.
Who has permission or exclusive rights may not have as much to do with how he treats you as WHAT he thinks of you.
Not saying this is you at all.....but I have seen many whiny weasley types come on here and start complaining how they had a bad exchange with another hunter, it's not the circumstance as much as their personality that rubs people the wrong way.
Who has permission or exclusive rights may not have as much to do with how he treats you as WHAT he thinks of you.
Not saying this is you at all.....but I have seen many whiny weasley types come on here and start complaining how they had a bad exchange with another hunter, it's not the circumstance as much as their personality that rubs people the wrong way.
It's family land.
Grow some self esteem, stupid!
PS. Pay your hydro bill.
Before anyone freaks out, I love kevin.303 and know exactly what he's talking about. Don't make me call Ray!
The deal is said renters had free/non obstructed access to the land until actual family AND more importantly ME came into the picture and started using the land. Free ride over. Sucks for them, yes. BUT family trumps all. The matriarch of the family already told you not to sweat it. They don't have exclusive rights to the land. Do I have to stake a land claim before you relax? Because I'll DO IT! I have a tipi ready to go!
The actual land we hunt is non farmable. The bottle neck is mine!
Grow some self esteem, stupid!
PS. Pay your hydro bill.
Before anyone freaks out, I love kevin.303 and know exactly what he's talking about. Don't make me call Ray!
The deal is said renters had free/non obstructed access to the land until actual family AND more importantly ME came into the picture and started using the land. Free ride over. Sucks for them, yes. BUT family trumps all. The matriarch of the family already told you not to sweat it. They don't have exclusive rights to the land. Do I have to stake a land claim before you relax? Because I'll DO IT! I have a tipi ready to go!
The actual land we hunt is non farmable. The bottle neck is mine!
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We often face similar issues here on PEI with Goose hunting, some fields lease for over $1000 to the hunters, not sure what the farmers pay.
It has to be discussed with the famrer as to who gets hunting rights, with madatory crop rotations here, farmers often trade off fields for a season. Generally speaking it is the landowner who has the say but occasionally it is the lessor.
It has to be discussed with the famrer as to who gets hunting rights, with madatory crop rotations here, farmers often trade off fields for a season. Generally speaking it is the landowner who has the say but occasionally it is the lessor.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
If I rented land for agricultural purposes I would think I was free to use the land in any way that did not change it, such as a strip mine for instance. If you rent something it is for all practical purposes yours during the time of the agreement. A visit to the renter prior to opening day may of been prudent, but in the case of a serious disagreement the owner of the land should have the final say.
It's family land.
Grow some self esteem, stupid!
PS. Pay your hydro bill.
Before anyone freaks out, I love kevin.303 and know exactly what he's talking about. Don't make me call Ray!
The deal is said renters had free/non obstructed access to the land until actual family AND more importantly ME came into the picture and started using the land. Free ride over. Sucks for them, yes. BUT family trumps all. The matriarch of the family already told you not to sweat it. They don't have exclusive rights to the land. Do I have to stake a land claim before you relax? Because I'll DO IT! I have a tipi ready to go!
The actual land we hunt is non farmable. The bottle neck is mine!
all right dances with deers, lay out the medicine wheel
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- London,Ontario
Get written permission from the land owner and carry it with you. Next time your questioned show it to them, state that it is your relatives property etc.
