Awesome Find Bucky - Real NICE OLD rifle - You might have to KILL a Deer or something with it ! 
RJ
RJ
An old Model 70 workhorse
- Thread starter Buckmastr
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Johnn Peterson
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- Location
- Chemainus B.C.
Sorry. 300 Win Mag. A very fancy example of a Winchester model 70 that I acquired many years back from a sporting goods store that existed at that time in Naniamo B.C., Ernie Johnsons Hardware.
Falconflyer
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Nice rifle!
One of my in laws has the same rifle numbered 1*** ... four digits total! It was his grand fathers rifle.
I also have one but mine is a post war model, it's in really good condition, is all origional and hasn't even been fitted with a rubber recoil pad.
One of my in laws has the same rifle numbered 1*** ... four digits total! It was his grand fathers rifle.
I also have one but mine is a post war model, it's in really good condition, is all origional and hasn't even been fitted with a rubber recoil pad.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
I tried to "zoom in" on the markings, but can not read them - any clue what is the brand of that base on the rifle?? I had messed with a Buehler brand (I think?) that had the windage and elevation adjustment within the base - for a scope like that, with no turrets - do not see that very often today.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
cooter303 - I found a similar picture to the one that you posted, on winchestercollector.org website - I think that might be a Bausch and Lomb mount? Can you confirm?
One might have a hard time finding no drill mounts for that rifle. It's a shame they were not factory drilled.
I'd be temped to find a beater stock for it, have it bedded. padded and use an old Lyman or Redfield receiver sight with the existing holes.
I'd be temped to find a beater stock for it, have it bedded. padded and use an old Lyman or Redfield receiver sight with the existing holes.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
Haha! - Supercub - I follow your thought for sure. I have used and own a number of steel butt plate rifles - 303 British and 30-06 - they must have made "manly" men back then - or "no sense, no feeling", perhaps. Sure does cause one to spend time on one's shooting form - those steel butt plates - do not get to "cheat" with them. I have never fired a 300 H&H, but I suspect that modern loads might be a step up from 30-06 - so, recoil might be a thing. I believe that I read that original 300 H&H were pretty much modern 30-06 level though - was a big case for the heat in India / Africa, I think - to keep breech pressures down to manageable levels ...
Was a thing, when I was younger or maybe stronger - rip off four quick rounds without dropping butt from shoulder - with heavy loads pushing 250 Partitions from my 338 Win Mag. No clue how guys can do that with 416's or 458's or bigger, and stay upright on their feet.
I suspect, though, that in those days, all the rounds were much "milder" than we have today. WWI 1906 loadings for 30-06 were only about 2,700 fps with 150 grain bullets from 26" barrels - was about all that was possible with powders of the day - I suspect that most all "old ones" were similar, compared to today's ammo for them - I think breech pressure is the same - just higher velocity, more recoil with modern powders??
Was a thing, when I was younger or maybe stronger - rip off four quick rounds without dropping butt from shoulder - with heavy loads pushing 250 Partitions from my 338 Win Mag. No clue how guys can do that with 416's or 458's or bigger, and stay upright on their feet.
I suspect, though, that in those days, all the rounds were much "milder" than we have today. WWI 1906 loadings for 30-06 were only about 2,700 fps with 150 grain bullets from 26" barrels - was about all that was possible with powders of the day - I suspect that most all "old ones" were similar, compared to today's ammo for them - I think breech pressure is the same - just higher velocity, more recoil with modern powders??
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Bucky's got a drill press out in the Garage and a tap & drill set - he will GET ER DONE !
lol RJ
I’ve loaded some 180 and 150 gr Speer hot cores. I’m going to shoot it this week. Then sell it. Or refinish it, or tap it. Or just leave it alone for hopefully another 80 years.
Lots of neat features on this gun, but the one thing that I find especially impressive is the trigger. Not the pull weight or the creep but the actual trigger. Perfectly shaped, narrow in width, deeply serrated. It is unlike any trigger I’ve put my finger on. Needs to be felt to be appreciated.
Lots of neat features on this gun, but the one thing that I find especially impressive is the trigger. Not the pull weight or the creep but the actual trigger. Perfectly shaped, narrow in width, deeply serrated. It is unlike any trigger I’ve put my finger on. Needs to be felt to be appreciated.
- Location
- Steel Town and The Peg
Super nice find. Now dont be tempted into going into any rabbit hole with stocks, bedding, drilling, etc. Buy a modern rifle for that. Leave it as is, as you're only a temporary caretaker for future generations. What a privilege to own that rifle.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
Kurgan - what a great attitude - I hope that catches on!!!
Very nice pre-war M70. The 300 H&H is an excellent all round cartridge that feeds through the action as smooth as it gets.
The rear scope mount work good on the pre-wars just be extra careful not to notch out the stock. The correct ones are out there, I had a couple at one time but someone else needed them more than me.
Another option is a Lyman receiver sight, I have one on a pre-war M70 that does not require the stock to be notched out.
The rear scope mount work good on the pre-wars just be extra careful not to notch out the stock. The correct ones are out there, I had a couple at one time but someone else needed them more than me.
Another option is a Lyman receiver sight, I have one on a pre-war M70 that does not require the stock to be notched out.
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- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
Beautiful rifle & chambering.fer sure.
These rifles be d&t on the left rear so no worries to fit an older, steel Redfield or Lyman peep on 'er to keep it correct fer the vintage.
These rifles be d&t on the left rear so no worries to fit an older, steel Redfield or Lyman peep on 'er to keep it correct fer the vintage.
It won’t get drilled or messed with. Not by me anyways.
Last spring we called in a nice black bear to under 20 yards. We didn’t shoot it because it was already a cool experience. To have had this rifle, shot it dead, would have taken it to another level. All of my hunting guns are scoped. Overscoped? Maybe. To have a nice vintage iron sighted rifle option might be just what I need. Now to repeat the bear event with a 80 year old pre-war Model 70 will be the challenge. Draped over a bull elk might be stretching it. For whatever reason i’m having a hard enough time even with a scope on them.
Last spring we called in a nice black bear to under 20 yards. We didn’t shoot it because it was already a cool experience. To have had this rifle, shot it dead, would have taken it to another level. All of my hunting guns are scoped. Overscoped? Maybe. To have a nice vintage iron sighted rifle option might be just what I need. Now to repeat the bear event with a 80 year old pre-war Model 70 will be the challenge. Draped over a bull elk might be stretching it. For whatever reason i’m having a hard enough time even with a scope on them.
