And now, a word on duplicated Lee Enfield stocks...

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Hi folks,

Just finished rebuilding a SMLE No1Mk3* for a fellow gunnut and given I've rebuilt three or four over the past few years with duplicated stocks, thought I could share a bit about that work.

My main goal here is to help anyone considering going that route to "desporterize" a SMLE understand that this is the most time consuming way to end up with a nice and complete No1Mk3.

And by that, I mean: there is a lot, and I repeat, a LOT of work needed.

The rear of the forend needs to be fitted. It also requires installation of the reinforcing pin or screw at the back to prevent splitting. The recoil draws of course need to be fitted. The channels for the rear handguard spring clip too. And all the barrel channel needs work - more than the usual bedding stuff. The part of the forend that receives the front nose cap needs work. The area that receives the trigger guard needs fitting. And so on.

Then, the rear handguard often requires install of the retaining "clip". That on its own is a bit of a pain, but with the proper brass rivets, it is doable (try sourcing these rivets, and get back to me about that). The front metal tab on the front handguard requires work.

Fitting the buttplate on the buttstock is an interesting piece of work too. I mean, so many curves in all axis, so, it needs time and care.

And, most of the time, the outside surfaces of all the stock parts are "oversize", they need final shaping to be correct, and matching to one another.

That's just a quick glance at the work needed, but I hope this does convey the idea that we are not talking about a few hours of work for a good job here, more like a couple dozens of hours.

BUT!

The result is usually quite nice. :)

Lou

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Hi Lou!
I bought 2 CNC repro forends from England. Made of walnut, came with the tie strap at the rear on, nosecap on etc.

Not perfect but really an amazingly accurate reproduction and required the smallest bit of fitting.
 
A lot of people just don’t realize how much work goes into rebuilding these rifles. They come to me and want a rifle redone and have no idea of cost or time involved. They expect to have a rifle put back to original for 2 or 3 hundred dollars. I normally spend 3 to 6 hundred to rebuild a Lee Enfield plus my time in putting them together. I usually tell them money wise it’s probably cheaper to just go buy one. I do it because I enjoy searching for the parts and building them. I have been lucky so far and found mostly original wood. Only one forearm was new and surprisingly was minimal fitting. The band being where most of the wood was removed from.
 
Hi Lou!
I bought 2 CNC repro forends from England. Made of walnut, came with the tie strap at the rear on, nosecap on etc.

Not perfect but really an amazingly accurate reproduction and required the smallest bit of fitting.

Who is doing the cnc stock work in England?
 
Took me two months to finish this project. All the wooden parts except for one (which was a reproduction) were old NOS or recycled (rear handguard) . It's just the fantasy rifle with no relation to any specific year or place. Between the four wooden parts three are made from different wood type, so the work to match all the different colors was a challenge as well.

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I can confirm - the amount of work involved with the fitting process is huge and frustrating at times. BTW the battle worn finish is totally fake on most of the metal parts.
 
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It looks beautiful. My next gunpurchase I am looking for a MkIII, but would prefer the old look of original wood. Have to recharge my gun budget though, kind of over spent on handguns this summer....
 
Hi Lou!
I bought 2 CNC repro forends from England. Made of walnut, came with the tie strap at the rear on, nosecap on etc.

Not perfect but really an amazingly accurate reproduction and required the smallest bit of fitting.

I suspect you got some stuff from EFD Rifles maybe? I know their stuff is top of the line...
 
A timely thread...I just ordered a complete walnut set for a No. 4 Mk2 from Prestigious Wood Stocks, my first order through them.
 
Very nice work on the new wood
I spent a long time finding military wood to
make sets
Then the fitting part starts, most military wood
Is very close to fitting gun and stock parts
 
I did one as a project last Winter. I quite enjoyed the process, and if I had other sets of metal bands/pieces I would probably do it again, but maybe on something different (Maybe a #4, maybe a Ross, all metal bits dependant)

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We are fortunate that a few companies are making repro wood stocks as the OEM stuff is scarce these days...I have a few winter projects waiting...nice work as always Lou !!
 
I found by the time I chiseled and sanded an inlet alone, it wouldn't have been much longer to just do the entire inlet myself. Loads of work but the sense of accomplishment was worth it. I probably wont do another lol.
 
Lou is the forend a mid-ww1 transitional pot belly or full pot belly stock, or is it an inter-war straight belly stock like the rsaf Enfield replacement walnut and beech stuff made in the 30's?

And I agree, fitting or carving a stock is a lot of work. If you don't own inletting chisels, scrapers, or know how to use inletting black, it might not be a job for you!
 
Ugh, Lou, don't even get me started. I bought a kit off a guy and he said everything was ready for assembly...no. Not even remotely close. Literally nothing fit, I've been slowly fitting everything together but to say it's been a pain is an understatement.

I've discovered that the problem with the duplicator is it carves everything about a quarter inch larger/ out of spec. On outside dimensions it isn't a problem as material can simply be removed, however when trying to fit length wise, the dimensions can't be "shrunk". It's a real pain in the azz. I wouldn't recommend anyone buying these wood sets.
 
I did one as a project last Winter. I quite enjoyed the process, and if I had other sets of metal bands/pieces I would probably do it again, but maybe on something different (Maybe a #4, maybe a Ross, all metal bits dependant)

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I need two of those slings? are they new production?
 
The forends I sourced in England were really accurate! They've done a really nice job. Didn't even need to be sanded!

One little filing job in one spot down in the draws area and the forend went on, with hand pressure.

The last few thou though...there was a bit to do and I admit I was out of my depth.

Getting the draws right and the right forend tip up pressure takes some skill.

The last thing you want to do is bugger up that expensive wood you just bought!
 
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