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There's a bunch of discussions going on right now about the Hera H6, the sorta kinda cool side-loading AR-mag bolt action that is finally available in stock after a couple years of teasing. I was close to ordering one, but...just then I received an email from Sporteque indicating that a gun I had been awaiting for a number of years was back in stock, the Voere S16. It's another side-loader, chambered in .223 and utilizing AR mags, but with a more traditional, non-folding stock than the Hera. It's also considerably cheaper, retailing at just a hair over $1200.

I sent in my order immediately. A few days later, here I am holding this cool little toy and so far I couldn't be happier. It's an ultralight rifle, crazy light and also very dainty and sleek in configuration. It feels like a toy; weight with an empty mag in place and mounted with a Leupold 2-7x33 scope shows as 5 pounds on my bathroom scale. Reading this and knowing what it weighs is one thing; actually holding and handling one is something else. I'm loving it. The leupold was chosen because of its small size and light weight; I actually think that I might find a fixed 4x Leupold instead, which would shave a couple more ounces off the package.

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Here's a shot of it sitting between two standard rifles with which many folks will be familiar, a Rem700 and a Ruger American. All three rifles fire the same ammo, .223Rem. Look at the difference in bulk:
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Unlike a lot of ultralight products, this doesn't "feel" cheap. I am accustomed to finding that "ultralight" seems to equate to "feels like junk" in a lot of cases. The MDT hunting chassis, HNT26, is a perfect example of this. We all know they ain't cheap, either in price or in construction, but they "feel" like garbage. The S16 feels like a quality product that just weighs nothing. The moulded stock is stupidly light, and carries a high-friction surface coating in lieu of checkering.

Another cool point: the barrel is actually sheathed in carbon fibre! It's so pencil-thin that the carbon must be very thin, but it's a nice touch that caught me totally off-guard. The Voere website indicates that both standard steel and CF-covered barrels are available, so naturally I assumed this "standard" model would be bare steel. Yet another nice touch was the inclusion of two little 5-round magazines, which sit flush with the end of the magwell on the side. This is destined to be a coyote rifle; I don't need or want a bigger mag sticking out on the side, and also don't want the extra weight of too many rounds. Those little mags fit and function perfectly in several other .223-chambered rifles I have, and are so short that they vastly improve the carryability of all these guns, allowing me to easily and comfortably wrap my hand around the balance point without dealing with big box magazines sticking out.
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The S16 seems to feed and function beautifully with MFT and Magpul mags, which I have used for much of my shooting so far. I will be keeping the original Voere mags for hunting.

The buttstock adjusts for length and also has a simple cheekpiece that can be adjusted for height. As tiny as the rifle is, it can stiil be easily set up for full-sized humans.

Of course, there are always a few flies in the soup. The pad on the buttplate is a simple sheet of foam rubber, very reminiscent of the DIY flip-flop pads dreamed up by Why Not? It bugs me; I will likely scrape it off and replace with just a thin rubber sheet for traction. I'll brave the frightful recoil of the .223 with no padding at all. And the muzzle of the barrel is threaded and comes with a thread protector...but removing this protector reveals that the threaded portion of the barrel is also pierced by several holes to act as a muzzle break. Really? Who in his right mind would carry and shoot the thing with no thread protector? This has to be one of the most idiotic design features I have ever encountered, but it's more a case of being bothered by knowing it's there. It isn't something you need to use or work around. I haven't bothered to check the thread pitch because I know dang well I won't be saddling this little wand with goofy extra weight.
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I've put about 100 rounds through the gun this morning, all cheap FMJ Remington/PMC stuff. Groups seem to hover around 1.5 - 2 MOA, which makes me think that MOA or better will be practically guaranteed with some load development and experimentation. The trigger is lovely and crisp; it's a very pronounced two-stage design (which I quite like) and feels like maybe 2.5 or perhaps 3 pounds. Not a target-light trigger, but pretty much ideal for cold-weather numb-fingered hunting. The bolt operation is not rough but certainly not glass-smooth, and fairly stiff. It will hopefully wear in and lighten up a bit with use. The effort required to raise the bolt tends to jar the very light gun more than it would a weightier rifle.

Overall, the gun is so lightweight that it requires concentration to shoot well. I don't think this is an indictment of the gun, or of lightweight guns in general; it's just a fact of life. If your mind wanders it is easy to see groups growing larger...so pay attention!

Lots of other features I haven't really thought about much: 60-degree bolt lift, which is perfect if you like a low mounted scope; nice big comfortable bolt knob; rail inlet into the bottom of the fore-end to make it easier to add unnecessary heavy crap :); two -position safety, very positive and accessible; probably other stuff as well. I need to play with it a bunch more, especially with an eye towards serious sighting-in and accuracy testing. A confidence-inspiring observation was noticed after scope mounting. I carefully mounted the rings (cheapie Weavers, the lightest I had on hand) to the pic rail, then the scope (again, the lightest one I had that was free) into the rings , and then quickly laser bore-sighted the outfit. The red dot was perfectly centered just under the crosshairs. The first shot, brashly taken at 100 yards, was perfect for windage and about 3 inches beneath POA. One quick adjustment of the elevation had rounds clustering snugly in the bullseye. A start like that just has to make you smile.

It's looking good for this new little toy to become a long-term keeper. I have now officially lost all interest in the Hera H6. :)
 

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Well that is a little different. Certainly minimalistic in terms of profile.

I’m just restarting down the rabbit hole that is UL/LW rifle again..

Pity that your a day late however. Just sold a FX II 4x33 and couldve helped you out on that front.
 
Well that is a little different. Certainly minimalistic in terms of profile.

I’m just restarting down the rabbit hole that is UL/LW rifle again..

Pity that your a day late however. Just sold a FX II 4x33 and couldve helped you out on that front.
...story of my life. :)
 
Maybe the muzzle threads with vents are intended for use with a suppressor.
Maybe...dunno. Would that mean that a suppressor would need to be specifically made for this rifle? I see lots of suppressors that simply thread onto plain threaded barrels, without any need for holes. But I freely admit that I don't know squat about the things.

Voere's website shows three versions of this gun. A standard version with bare steel barrel; a carbon-fibre version like mine; and a suppressed version on which the suppressor seems to be integral to the barrel, and extends all the way back to the receiver.

I never thought of the suppressor idea, and honestly I hope that it's something like that. Then it wouldn't seem nearly as stupid as I originally thought it was, and my faith in Austrian design and engineering would be restored. :)
 
Well, no guarantee that it'll be a true keeper...but I'm liking it enough so far that I'll definitely be giving it at least a year or two. :) I'll keep you in mind.
 
What would be the point of making a muzzle device that screws onto muzzle threads, but requires that it be timed to match up with those holes? The easiest way to make a brake would be just the way everybody else does it; have it screw on, timed with a lock nut or crush washer if necessary, with the holes in the brake positioned in front of the end of the muzzle face of the barrel.

Same thing with a suppressor, I would assume. I just don't see the point of doing it the hard way. Not saying you're wrong, I just don't see the reasoning behind using a weird proprietary method. Does any other manufacturer do it like that?

I'll get a couple shots of the mag, but there's nothing particularly special about it. It's just a nicely-made polymer AR mag, nice and short for hunting.
 
I have no idea why they would go that route but there has to be some method to their madness. Euros like to over complicate some stuff, this just looks like an opportunity for that!
 
The holes are the 'hunting' brake. The threads are either to be used for a suppressor (Europe is full of them in most countries), or one of Voeres linear comps.
 
I have no idea why they would go that route but there has to be some method to their madness. Euros like to over complicate some stuff, this just looks like an opportunity for that!
Could be a simple way to do a brake without hanging extra weight off the muzzle be my figuring. Interesting rifle fer sure & the 300 BLK be
the one I'd get. :cool:
 
The holes are the 'hunting' brake. The threads are either to be used for a suppressor (Europe is full of them in most countries), or one of Voeres linear comps.
Okay, sure, the threads make sense for those purposes. But the holes? Surely, even if you can carry the gun in the field without bashing the delicate threads on a rock or something...escaping gas blowing through those ports during shooting will make a mess of them in short order, requiring careful cleaning before you can re-attach the protector or anything else?
 
Okay, sure, the threads make sense for those purposes. But the holes? Surely, even if you can carry the gun in the field without bashing the delicate threads on a rock or something...escaping gas blowing through those ports during shooting will make a mess of them in short order, requiring careful cleaning before you can re-attach the protector or anything else?
You will never gas cut those holes, or abrade them, not with a 300wm, and definitely not with a 223. Might get them dirty, but thats it.
The threads arent going to be delicate, but yes, if you hand your rifle to a gorilla, or try to use the muzzle as a hammer you might damage the threads, but under normal conditions they should be fine. They are a coarse thread, not a super fine one.
You could go to Voeres website, and check out their muzzle brake page, and pick up a full on brake if you want. I personally would stick with something linear just to push the noise down range, but thats beacuse i dont find the recoil of a 223 to need a muzzle brake lol
 
The holes in the threads have to be for either a proprietary brake or silencer.

DO you have a pic of your 5 round magazines?
Here's the Voere 5-rd mag next to a PMag 10-rd:
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Here's the S16 and the Ruger American, with their magazines reversed. The S16 is, to me at least, starting to get awkward with this much mag sticking out the side. The American with the short Voere mag is much nicer to handle than it is when using the 10-rd size mag. The mag is still not flush, but it is easy to wrap your hand around it for carrying.
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The polymer Voere mag is very light and doesn't drop free from either gun when it's completely empty. This may be a concern for users who need 10 rounds in their gun at all times, plus the ability for lightning quick mag changes after their first 10 quick misses. For hunting purposes, IMHO, it's actually a benefit for the mag to not jump out of the gun when the release is depressed. But then I won't be doing a lot of driven-type hunts in Manitoba; coyotes don't really lend themselves to that stuff. :)

The Voere mag is also a bit thick, which holds it in place in the magwell and prevents any looseness or rattling; another hunting plus.

Very interesting little rifle. Question, does the side load mag ad left torque to the gun.
It's not noticeable with the 5-round mag. I start to become aware of it with a 10-rounder if fully loaded, but thats something I would only be doing at the bench.

You will never gas cut those holes, or abrade them, not with a 300wm, and definitely not with a 223. Might get them dirty, but thats it.
The threads arent going to be delicate, but yes, if you hand your rifle to a gorilla, or try to use the muzzle as a hammer you might damage the threads, but under normal conditions they should be fine. They are a coarse thread, not a super fine one.
You could go to Voeres website, and check out their muzzle brake page, and pick up a full on brake if you want. I personally would stick with something linear just to push the noise down range, but thats beacuse i dont find the recoil of a 223 to need a muzzle brake lol
Yeah, I wasn't suggesting gas cutting was a worry, just didn't like dirty gummed-up exposed threads. If I felt I wanted or needed a brake, I would definitely put a separate one on, but when the gun is this light I begrudge every added ounce. This is pretty subjective; doesn't need to make sense. :)

I see on the Voere website their use of that term "hunting" muzzle brake. They also talk about what they call "closed season calibers". Gotta love that quaint continental terminology. :)
 
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For the holes to make sense I would think there would be 2 muzzle caps in the box. One plain and one with the holes in them! :)
You'd think so, but...nope!

I spent about an hour this morning overlooking a coyote bait I keep semi-maintained in the corner of the adjacent fallow field. Nice sunrise, no wind, and sadly no coyotes. I had the thread protector removed, which felt very...unnatural to me. The gun was leaning against a decrepit old picnic table that serves as a blind + bench rest for shooting that spot. When I picked up the rifle to go indoors, I noticed a couple tiny wood splinters that had been caught up on the muzzle threads. Just for gits'n'shiggles, I spun the protector back on without brushing them off. The splinter closest to the front simply fell off when the protector touched it.

The other little chip was sort of wedged into the threads maybe halfway down their length. I watched carefully as the thread protector moved towards it, engaged it and began to push/slide it along. It was pretty cool; I started to think it would be shoved all the way to the end of the threads and would then fall off at the short unthreaded section at the rear. I was just starting to think "Wow...that's impressively thought out and executed!"

Then the chip reached the rear ring of holes...and promptly dropped through one of them into the bore.

Nope, sorry...I don't like those holes. :)
 
This is a quote from their website, I suspect they consider it a muzzle brake.
"A permanently attached muzzle brake helps further reducing the already low recoil of the 222 Rem., 223 Rem., 300 Whisper and 300 AAC Blackout cartridge in this light weight bolt action rifle."
 
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