...and the damage done (22 cleaning rod jammed)

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Here's a question. A buddy of mine bought a cleaning rod for his 22. The cleaning rod was one of those Dewey rods. He started to clean and the jag went in, the threaded brass tip went in and then it started to slow down, a little more force and then it stopped. What do you ? Finish what you start or pull it out? Well, he committed himself pushed the rod entirely through with a LOT of force and found it wasn't the patch or the jag, IT WAS THE ROD! With a lot of work, and careful tapping we got the rod back out. Would the barrel stretch? Would there be any damage to the rifling? The coating was cut a little in a few places. I'm looking for opinions from people who have a dewey, they'll know what coating I'm talking about. Anyway, thought I would ask. Oh, and he went back and got the correct rod.


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I`d think the barrel wouldn`t be harmed as well. If the barrel was to strech my advice is to throw away that P O S**it....lol I`ve had 20 cals that were quite snug, just trimmed the patches abit smaller and problem solved.
 
dusty61 said:
had 20 cals that were quite snug, just trimmed the patches abit smaller and problem solved.
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No need to trim patches. Instead of piercing it in the centre of the patch start piercing it towards the corner. I used to trim until some benchrest shooters asked me where I was putting the patch on the jag.
 
Once again, it wasn't the jag or patch, it was the whole rod that was too thick! I use patches just like cycbb486. he off set the patch, but my buddy found out it wasn't the patch or jag, the rod was slightly larger than the 22 barrel. He hasn't fired it since, that will probably be the next thing he does. Thanks for the input. I didn't think steel would stretch from a dewey rod coating.
 
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I have heard several counts of the Dewey .22 cal rods getting stuck in .22,s, especially the CZ's. Why they made a rod that would get stuck in some guns is beyond me. A gun like a CZ, or benchrest guns have a much tighter bore.

A good compromize is the .20 caliber rod. After hearing complaints of the .22 cal rods getting stuck in bores I bought the .20 rod. With the little 1.25x1.25 patches and the jag it is a good fit.

I don't think the bore is damaged, but I would clean it again before shooting, with a properly fit rod. You don't want anything to get embedded into the barrel and then permanently mold it to the barrel by shooting it.
 
Interesting problem, and it made me curious , so I went and measured my small bore rod - I primarily use Dewey rods. The rod measures .214 and the jag measures .204. If the bore was .218 or larger it would clear, if the patch did not extend past the jag onto the rod.

Still, the clearances are minimal, and when you buy a quality product you expect it to work. Dewey's designers probably wanted to minimize the flex in the small caliber rod so made it as large as possible for a .22 center fire.

I doubt any damage was done.
 
Check for lead accumulation and try a .177

There may be another factor here. Check your bore for lead accumulation.

The rod I use for cleaning .22's is actually .201", and at times the lead accumulation in the barrel will cause the brush and/or patch (with the holder) to jam in the barrel, especially closer towards the receiver.

When I see a riffle that is very dirty with visible lead accumulation, I often start with a .177 (air gun rod) and a good solvent to loosen things up a bit and then I go to my .22 rod.

Just a suggestion
Robert
 
Egad! How in the world did you get a rimfire dirty enough to even require cleaning? I have match grade rifles that have stayed clean through literally thousands of shots.
 
rlg said:
There may be another factor here. Check your bore for lead accumulation.

The rod I use for cleaning .22's is actually .201", and at times the lead accumulation in the barrel will cause the brush and/or patch (with the holder) to jam in the barrel, especially closer towards the receiver.

When I see a riffle that is very dirty with visible lead accumulation, I often start with a .177 (air gun rod) and a good solvent to loosen things up a bit and then I go to my .22 rod.

Just a suggestion
Robert
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OH YES!:eek:
I had a little Cooey rabbit gun in for a cleaning. It looked leaded up, so I put a brush on a Dewey 22 rod, and proceeded to jamb it severly, could not back up or go through. :runaway: Ended up completely ruining the rod by cutting it off and hammering it through a few inches at a time. until the brush came out the muzzle, then heated it up to melt the plastic to get it out the rest of the way. Barrel was then useless so replaced it with another cooey barrel I had.:redface:
 
Warning! Do not use Dewey 22 rod's with cooey's!!!!!

Papaneil said:
OH YES!:eek:
I had a little Cooey rabbit gun in for a cleaning. It looked leaded up, so I put a brush on a Dewey 22 rod, and proceeded to jamb it severly, could not back up or go through. :runaway: Ended up completely ruining the rod by cutting it off and hammering it through a few inches at a time. until the brush came out the muzzle, then heated it up to melt the plastic to get it out the rest of the way. Barrel was then useless so replaced it with another cooey barrel I had.:redface:
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Yeh, it wasn't that bad. The bore after we pulled the rod out was clean and he cleans it every time he shoots it. What we did was took a brass cleaning rod, cut it to where it was solid brass, and while I pulled, he tapped on the rod from the muzzle end using the cut cleaning rod. This worked great and we got it out without have to cut the dewey rod. It came out eventually and there were just little parts of the coating that were cut from the rifling. You'll be happy to know that we took the rifle out, shot at about 75 yards and the group of six shots were super tight. It almost seems that this rod jamming experience has made the gun more accurate! I think I'll publish a book called, "Accurizing your cooey with a dewey cleaning rod" - :)


-LS
 
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