Annealing Need Tempilaq

really guys its not rocket science im playing with $5 cases here makes .300 win mag look cheap ive never used it you can seen the case get darker that's when you quench its not hard you really don't need to go through any fancy measures or build any fancy machines for cheap common brass
 
whatever I guess. do it the way you prefer.

Let me get this right, you are actually promoting the use of a torch on brass without some method of temp indication? If you get too hot it could be a catastrophic failure, and your best hope if that happens would be loss of eyesight only. To gamble with stakes that high the prize should be higher that just some stupid cartridge not blowing up in your face.
 
What temperature are u guys using for the pens? Im assuming 550-650? if you are willing to call a store in Ottawa, Praxair has the pens.

I would get 450, 500, 550 and 600 degree temp pens. 450 degrees is enough for case forming or converting neck diameter and shoulder moving. If you get it too hot shoulders will collapse before they move. 500/550 is enough to anneal case necks for reloading. You've got to be careful using "post-flame" heat indicators, as actual temp in flame may be higher. Post-flame indicators are not absolute but a reliable comparison. Instruction manual with Bench-Source annealer says 650 degree Tempilaq, but using Markall temp pens 550 is the temp I target.
 
Let me get this right, you are actually promoting the use of a torch on brass without some method of temp indication? If you get too hot it could be a catastrophic failure, and your best hope if that happens would be loss of eyesight only. To gamble with stakes that high the prize should be higher that just some stupid cartridge not blowing up in your face.

Kinda over dramatizing things a bit.

Try not to hurt yourself by thinking too much.

It really isn't rocket science, at least, it isn't, for the rest of the reloaders that have annealed , reformed, resized, wildcatted and otherwise butchered brass over the century and a bit that brass has been used for cartridge cases.

I have done a lot of annealing of aluminum rivets and sheet, as well as brass, using a Sharpie marker or Magic Marker pen. Draw a line, heat the line with the torch until it disappears, plonk into the water. Or don't. Soot from an Acet torch flame works well too. Or a candle flame, for the soot source.

Or you can do the standard old standby that has worked for about ever, with a cake pan of water and...


Really, the aim is to NOT anneal the base of the cartridge. The rest of it is pretty forgiving. Not worth getting a set of panties in a wad over, anyways.

Cheers
Trev
 
Kinda over dramatizing things a bit.

Try not to hurt yourself by thinking too much.

It really isn't rocket science, at least, it isn't, for the rest of the reloaders that have annealed , reformed, resized, wildcatted and otherwise butchered brass over the century and a bit that brass has been used for cartridge cases.

I have done a lot of annealing of aluminum rivets and sheet, as well as brass, using a Sharpie marker or Magic Marker pen. Draw a line, heat the line with the torch until it disappears, plonk into the water. Or don't. Soot from an Acet torch flame works well too. Or a candle flame, for the soot source.

Or you can do the standard old standby that has worked for about ever, with a cake pan of water and...


Really, the aim is to NOT anneal the base of the cartridge. The rest of it is pretty forgiving. Not worth getting a set of panties in a wad over, anyways.

Cheers
Trev
Pretty much the way I look at the matter as well,too much thought going into some of this stuff.
 
Let me get this right, you are actually promoting the use of a torch on brass without some method of temp indication? If you get too hot it could be a catastrophic failure, and your best hope if that happens would be loss of eyesight only. To gamble with stakes that high the prize should be higher that just some stupid cartridge not blowing up in your face.

Oh god, that is not worth an argument. Seems like an anti argument


Let me get this right, you are actually promoting the use of [machine guns] without some method of [gun registry]? If you get too [psycho] it could be a catastrophic failure, and your best hope if that happens would be loss of [the whole universe] only. To gamble with stakes that high the prize should be higher that just some [Pmags].

I'm out of this debate, have fun, maybe call costco to see if they have deals on tempilaq gallons.

As for the rest of the people interrested in this thread, I suggest reading this:

http://www.6mmbr.com/annealing.html

And in one sentence, rotate the case in a drill, with the neck in the flame, until the grey line is at the shoulder. stop, dump the case in a pan. (I don't use water, but you can if you want to). Takes approx 6-8 seconds for a 300 win mag case.

For your information only, don't do this at home, I am not responsible if you blow your head off.....

I personally clean cases once all steps are done, and before annealing, so I have that nice annealing line on all my target brass. God, I love that look, it's priceless.
 
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