another 7mm08 Bullet choice, Opinion thread- for Elks* Sambar. update #27 #49

Longwalker said:
You'll be happy with the Woddleigh weldcores. However, I'd shoot 160 grain bullets for the bigger deer, not 140's. 140s are light for caliber, and it is a lot to expect that they will plough through a humerus and still hold together for deep penetration. The 7x57's reputation for punching above its weight was made with 175 - 160 grain bullets. Yes, bullet technology has progressed from the bad old days. But 160 gr. is a nice medium weight, and will definitely out penetrate and break big bones more reliably than the little 140 gr. will.
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I was going to get a 7mm-08 a while ago (ended up with a 270 instead) and the general consensus I got was anything over 140 grains is too long, and takes up powder space. The 7x57 has more space for a longer bullet. Also, almost all factory loads are with 140 grain pills, there must be a reason for this...

With your list, I'd go Woodleigh or aframe. Being the cheaper option, I'd go Woodleigh.
 
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The 140's are the cat's pj's for the 7mm-08 in factory twist rifles.They are not light for caliber, they are pretty much standard and perform well on moose sized game.

150 is okay, once you get over that the returns diminish , fast.Ballistically going too heavy is not going to help.The 7-08 is does not have the parameters to push these heavier projectiles to a usable trajectory or energies.I have tested up to 168gr with a 26" barrel and there is a point you must stop.

There is a reason the factory loads mostly 140's , it is the most efficient and practical.

For hand loaders, getting a 140gr projectile to 2900 ft/sec is about as good as anyone needs.

Again, I stand by the SC II's high BC , extremely tough construction and accurate.



Longwalker said:
You'll be happy with the Woddleigh weldcores. However, I'd shoot 160 grain bullets for the bigger deer, not 140's. 140s are light for caliber, and it is a lot to expect that they will plough through a humerus and still hold together for deep penetration. The 7x57's reputation for punching above its weight was made with 175 - 160 grain bullets. Yes, bullet technology has progressed from the bad old days. But 160 gr. is a nice medium weight, and will definitely out penetrate and break big bones more reliably than the little 140 gr. will.
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I didn't have very good luck with the Interlocks either. Bullet went in the chest and came out the opposite side in the back. Luckily it must have tumbled and cut the liver on the way through. Hardly a drop of blood to be found. Where he is laying is the most blood I found.
I'll stick with Nosler.

 
I respectfully disagree that 140 are "not light for caliber" in a 7mm and that high velocity should be the goal for bullets for the biggest of deer. Penetration IN game and bullet integrity are far more important than speed in my experience. Speed and light bullets are good for small deer. Deadly on small deer. Not so ideal on Sambar, or elk, or moose.
I load my 2 son's 7mm08 rifles with 160 Speer grand slams at 2600 fps. They work well on elk with deep penetration and without the bullet breakup that some criticize them for, precisely because they are not being driven too fast.
 
Good discussion and pros and cons on both sides of the fence.

Ive ended up picking the Woodleigh 140gr bullet to get a start on .

I suppose a 150gr would be nicer as the Federal Bluebox with 150gr SP was so far the goods.

Loading up this weekend , god damn i dislike load developments... fairly sure i will end up with pressure signs early anyway and so a lower charge prefered.
Which should Aid the Woodleighs reputation an wont rip shreds as it penetrates!

WL
 
so an update of the Hornady projectiles!

I did some culling on private property last night, legal in Victoria.

I took the 708 an these 139gr inter locks, results were average.

one pass through from 100m high lung / ribs - drt an died 2 mins later.
3 took 'just behind the shoulder' , heart / lung shots and the projectiles I got out had no Lead core, and had penetrated 60-75% of the animal.
one of those 3 deflected into the chest cavity
one was inside the opposite shoulder/leg.
one I lost to the blackberries??

all ran -50m before dieing.


Safe to say, I'm not impressed in my selection of bullet for the sambar and the 7mm, and I do look forward to the 140gr Woodleigh Weldcores....although I am seriously thinking 150-160gr Range!!


light deer projectile 100%

WL
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
Rayn'er Shine Gunworks, Lancer,

CI Distribution , Puslinch Ontario

Never had a problem having Swift bullets in my cabinet.Never had to look anywhere else either.
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Thanks Kelly, that's good to know! I was more or less referring to local availability though, and the Scirocco bullet specifically. I'll have to get a few boxes sent my way!
 
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All good down under

WL
 
EastBranch said:
Like, what more do I have to kill with a 130gr ttsx to prove to people these bullets are *the* solution to *any* perceived small calibre - large animal problem.

Lead bullets.....get a grip people.
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Never had a problem with lead softpoints in either performance OR cost.
 
Thru the rear lungs I see that blood comin from?


a soft point would go thru there ;)



I blew two holes in a Sambar stag this morning at 40m with the woodleighs.

TICK

WL
 
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