Another BCL-102 Review

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I picked up a used first pre order FDE BCL-102 a couple of weeks ago. I loved the look and specs of the gun for what I consider a reasonable price. I wanted to give a bit of an unbiased review as there has been a ton of negativity on the forum and I don’t think any of the issues I have had have been mentioned.

My gun came with some extras that were already installed. A lot of them were not what I was planning on doing so I figured I would unload them and defer the cost of the parts I actually wanted to put on. The highlights of the extras were a Geiselle 2 stage G2S trigger, one XCR-M pistol Mag, a Magpul mlok bipod mount and a VLTOR VC301 flash hider/brake.

Upon unboxing and inspection my initial impressions were not good. The hammer pin had “walked” or came out before I even fired it. I am not sure if this had to do with the aftermarket G2S trigger so take that with a grain of salt. It was easy to push the pin back into position but it had me nervous about the gun from the start. The other thing I noticed was the rod that the dust cover rides on was retained by an E clip however it only had one on the side closest the handguard. This means it could travel forward far enough to hit the handguard. So basically the only thing keeping the rod from coming out was the girthy OEM handguard. In my opinion that rod should either have a second e clip to retain it or the e clip should be in the inside next to the dust cover to stop it from sliding forward and falling out. After a little research I found that hammer pins walking is a common problem which can be easily fixed by the KNS anti rotational pins. I haven’t remedied the dust cover rod yet.

Before I hit the range I fit a fixed MOE stock and MOE plus grip. I mounted a Leupold VX-R 3-9x40 Patrol in Weaver tactical medium rings. I had three types of ammo to try: Federal Fusion MSR 150 Grain, Federal Fusion 165 Grain, and Federal Premium Gold Medal Match with Sierra 168 grn Matchkings.
I shot 10 of each ammo as I sighted in. I was having a high number of FTEs (5 out of 30) with my XCR-M Pistol mag so retired it and shot the rest from the IMI plastic mag. That stopped the FTE's. I was shooting from a bipod and a sandbag in the rear. The Fusion MSR shot a 1.5” group. Fusion 165 shot a 3” group and the Gold Medal Match shot a 1” group. I shot across my chrono and the results were 2750, 2630 and 2500 respectively.
If I forgot to keep an eye on the hammer pin it would walk and fall out about every 5 shots making the gun inoperable. I would have to pivot the lower down to push the hammer pin back home.
Another small issue I was having with the xcr mags was the charging handle would stick when first pulling on it. I would have to kind of jiggle it to get it to slide back. I found it less of an issue with the IMI mag. When I got home I compared the XCR mag to the IMI. The follower in the XCR mags has a sharp leading edge that the BCG was dragging on where the IMI has a smooth gradual ramp and showed no marks from the BCG. I filed a radius into the follower and noticed an improved action when using the charging Handle.
Despite the issues I love my BCL-102! Tons of fun to shoot! Being my first semi auto I liked the lack of recoil compared to a bolt gun and loved being able sling lead down range as fast as I could pull the trigger. I found the rifle front heavy when shooting freehand so wanted to lighten it up.

I ordered a 13.5 SLR Helix Mlok handguard, SLR Synergy titanium Mini compensator, KNS anti rotational pins and a Raptor ambi charging handle. Once all this was installed the gun weighed 10.0 lbs +/- .2 lbs with an empty xcr-m mag. The gun seemed a lot lighter on the forward arm and more of pleasure to point freehand. The raptor charging handle is also a great improvement over stock, easier on the fingers and more to grab. The KNS pins totally fixed the hammer pin walking I was experiencing and took 10 minutes to install.

Overall I am happy with the BCL102. I knew it wasn’t going to be perfect but modding this thing was part of the fun I was looking forward to. If you are looking for an AR style battle rifle and aren’t put off by having to address a few issues I would definitely recommend picking one up!

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Gosh. My 38 year old Belgium made BAR .243 shoots perfectly, without any issues, still bone stock as hand assembled, sold for far less than $1800 (although it might sell for a tad more today..if they still built them) and I assure you that this rifle is no safe queen.....with groups touching at 100 yards with a $300 scope....
 
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Thanks for your detailed review.
I'm hoping to get in on the 3rd pre-order and I find it kind of strange that there's so few reviews on this forum.
I thought there was around 75 guns in the 1st pre-order, yet there's less than 10 reviews on here (and only 1 I think on YouTube).
It's refreshing to read your honest review versus a typical fanboy spewing the gospel.
Cheers
 
Gosh. My 38 year old Belgium made BAR .243 shoots perfectly,

Whats the point of this ? This thread is about the 102 not some old looking antique. I also have guns that are sub MOA, But they aren't bad ass looking NR AR10's ;)
 
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Whats the point of this ? This thread is about the 102 not some old looking antique.

Well since you asked....
I may be among the few here who feel that value for money these days means something. And further that a rifle, of any make, model, caliber or year, should function perfectly, in fact be impressive for a high dollar unit - out of the box. Perhaps I am old school, and for that I will not apologize. If the current sharpshooter has different (lesser) expectations...then let them wonder the adventure and change and upgrade and swap components - with a firearm until it meets their expectations.

I remember a simpler time when one could purchase a quality factory rifle which exceeded expectations....without all the turbo and nitrous (so to speak) modifications....however I acknowledge times have changed
 
Is the 102 worth the asking price ? heck no ! But since I wanted one I put in work, saved up and once the IOP opens up ill order one. Im just super excited that we have NR AR10's and maybe that skewed my judgment a bit...lol :)

Ill be in the bush hunting with a AR10. doesn't get cooler than that :)
 
That's a nice looking handguard and sounds like it was a pretty functional upgrade. I think you've convinced me to get one going there's a black Friday sale or something.
 
i am curious if the trigger was installed correctly, the legs of the hammer spring should be on top of the trigger pin in a groove that prevents walking..... and hemmer is always under tension so it shouldn't come out.
 
Well since you asked....
I may be among the few here who feel that value for money these days means something. And further that a rifle, of any make, model, caliber or year, should function perfectly, in fact be impressive for a high dollar unit - out of the box. Perhaps I am old school, and for that I will not apologize. If the current sharpshooter has different (lesser) expectations...then let them wonder the adventure and change and upgrade and swap components - with a firearm until it meets their expectations.

I remember a simpler time when one could purchase a quality factory rifle which exceeded expectations....without all the turbo and nitrous (so to speak) modifications....however I acknowledge times have changed

i can relate to this.... I am seriously tempted by this rifle though but find myself seriously torn between my desires and my sensibilities haha My sensibilities remember a day when so many reliable and battle tested rifles were availlable for 1/4 to 1/2 the price of this rifle and others in it's NR class. Given most of those firearms are prohibitted now so it's not really a fair comparison.
I have hoped for a few years that a rifle like this could be produced in canada and priced in line with an affordable, shooter grade AR15. I had also hoped that those designing and manufacturing such rifles would take the hobby builders into account and offer stripped uppers and lowers.
anyhow, I'm gonna hold off due to my damn sensabilities and see how this rifle plays out. It could be the answer to my desire for a .338fed semi auto bush gun , I have no use for another range queen rifle. I'd just buy a 1000 dollar or less AR i bult myself for that purpose hehehe

I appreciate the review on this rifle and look forward to hearing from more owners
 
I picked up a used first pre order FDE BCL-102 a couple of weeks ago. I loved the look and specs of the gun for what I consider a reasonable price. I wanted to give a bit of an unbiased review as there has been a ton of negativity on the forum and I don’t think any of the issues I have had have been mentioned...

First of all, thanks for taking the time to post your review. I found it insightful and I'm glad you did it. Please don't let the fact that I have a couple of nits to pick discourage you.


The hammer pin had “walked” or came out before I even fired it. I am not sure if this had to do with the aftermarket G2S trigger so take that with a grain of salt. It was easy to push the pin back into position but it had me nervous about the gun from the start.

Although I can't see the particulars of the malfunction from here, you should have been able to fix this without resorting to the KNS pins. If your pin is walking out every 5 shots there is clearly something assembled incorrectly. Have you much experience with AR rifles? In the factory design the hammer and trigger pins are both retained by spring wires that rest in grooves on the pin. I am not familiar with your aftermarket trigger but there should be something built in specifically to retain those pins, and it was probably just a matter of moving a spring leg.

The other thing I noticed was the rod that the dust cover rides on was retained by an E clip however it only had one on the side closest the handguard. This means it could travel forward far enough to hit the handguard. So basically the only thing keeping the rod from coming out was the girthy OEM handguard.

This has been the standard of the AR family forever, though looking at my M16A1 and M4 uppers the rod actually contacts the barrel nut rather than the handguard.

I was having a high number of FTEs (5 out of 30) with my XCR-M Pistol mag so retired it and shot the rest from the IMI plastic mag. That stopped the FTE's.

Okay, this is something of a pet peeve but I absolutely HATE when people use the abbreviations FTE or FTF, for the simple reason that they aren't uniquely defined. "FTE" can mean Failure to Extract or Failure to Eject (FTF can be Failure to Feed or Failure to Fire). I know some people are likely to claim that there is some convention on this forum or across the internet or whatever that everyone has agreed on a meaning, but I call bullshìt, I have been cruising online firearms groups since the days of usenet rec.guns and I have seen the terms widely interchanged. They are therefore meaningless, I read your post carefully twice and still cannot say what kind of problem you were experiencing. It's a shame to have an otherwise good, informative post like this undermined by lazy terminology that leaves people guessing.

That being said, neither extraction nor ejection failures are usually influenced by magazines so I'm scratching my head how you figure you stopped whatever problem you had by changing mags.
 
Upon unboxing and inspection my initial impressions were not good. The hammer pin had “walked” or came out before I even fired it. I am not sure if this had to do with the aftermarket G2S trigger so take that with a grain of salt.

I was having a high number of FTEs (5 out of 30) with my XCR-M Pistol mag so retired it and shot the rest from the IMI plastic mag. That stopped the FTE's. I was shooting from a bipod and a sandbag in the rear. The Fusion MSR shot a 1.5” group. Fusion 165 shot a 3” group and the Gold Medal Match shot a 1” group.

If I forgot to keep an eye on the hammer pin it would walk and fall out about every 5 shots making the gun inoperable.
Another small issue I was having with the xcr mags was the charging handle would stick when first pulling on it. I would have to kind of jiggle it to get it to slide back. I found it less of an issue with the IMI mag. When I got home I compared the XCR mag to the IMI. The follower in the XCR mags has a sharp leading edge that the BCG was dragging on where the IMI has a smooth gradual ramp and showed no marks from the BCG. I filed a radius into the follower and noticed an improved action when using the charging Handle.

- FTE's

- 'so-so' accuracy.

- questionable workmanship

I'm glad I stayed away from the first batch of these things. One would think that a Canadian company could do measurably better than Norinco...
 
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