Another FN C1A1: But this one is kind of unique
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maple_leaf_eh
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I have a copy of the crap LGR dataset. I found 16 (sixteen) registered Prohibited C1A1 rifles as of 2014. No C2 rifles and only one SMG 9mm C1. The latter was registered in Postal Code L0x ###. No serial numbers or FRT references, just ownership (business or individual) and first two letters of postal codes.
Oooooooo ....... burn.
Having both 12-5 and 12-3 I feel pretty much the same way. HATE seeing stuff like this being deactivated.
I personally know of 4 people that have at least 7-8 total C1A1's between the 4 of them, and one 12.2 9mm C1. Between seeing others at auction and members here posting about ones they own I have a feeling that there are more than 16 left out in the wild.
And I have to agree with a few others here, if it is truly the last one off the line, to me that is a travesty that such a historical firearm was turned into a paperweight when there are still so many other options currently out there that could have kept it live. Although those options would not have allowed the op to hang it on his wall.
In a capitalist society, and in the tradition of auctions, the person willing to spend the cash wins, and also does with their property exactly what they wish to do - sour grapes aside. Displaying a 12.x firearm is pretty difficult to do, given the storage requirements. At least in this case others will be able to see the firearm in question, given the examples the current government has set so far, and the nature of the laws regarding these firearms, at least this one won't go to a shredder when the last 12.x licensee dies, and the current owner can hand it down to family members as a reminder that this country was once 'strong and free', and not the laughable workers paradise it's rapidly becoming.
KotKotofeich
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- Ottawa Valley
My kids (or whoever I will to if they are not interested) can inherit all of my prohib guns legally (well at least for now - something can always change), so enough of those excuses - just because someone is not willing to set up the proper legal mechanism in place - it's on them. Displaying a FAL is not that difficult either - so the bolt has to be removed on top of locking it, not like it's something one can move in a dewat. I have not done it yet, but thinking of 3d printing a fake plastic bolt that _can_ be moved while it's on display.
But, yes, if he wants to spend the cash - more power to him... this gun could have been saved, in working condition, in Canada... Sour grapes aside
I did pick up others at that auction that were more of a priority and I will eventually pick a working C1... just sucks that I had not realized it was not an OPP example and there's no going back on the butchering even if I wanted to buy it out.
stencollector
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
Regarding the number remaining, I also ran it back in the day to see how many there were. The Ottawa Citizen database would only allow something like 300 hits, so I had to run it in a few of the provinces. Ontario alone was over 300 examples, and across the country it might approximate 800, but I couldn't be certain. Seems to me there were at least 10 C1 SMGs, and a slightly higher number of C2s.
I think the issue is , we had to 're register a lot
of firearm's for the new registry
The registry has the old list and knows where they
are supposed to be
I applied to register my dad's gun that was registered
in 1964 , they knew all about it, even though it
wasn't 're registered into the new system
I can't understand why the registry just didn't send
everyone new slip's!
This is a very confusing situation for a lot of people
who didn't do it
I wonder what will happen now
of firearm's for the new registry
The registry has the old list and knows where they
are supposed to be
I applied to register my dad's gun that was registered
in 1964 , they knew all about it, even though it
wasn't 're registered into the new system
I can't understand why the registry just didn't send
everyone new slip's!
This is a very confusing situation for a lot of people
who didn't do it
I wonder what will happen now
Apparently the RCMP spent a good few years shredding their copies of the registration slips, since they didn't have the staffing, or space to file them. Wish I'd known that back in the day. Hence you had to re-register them.
Eaglelord17
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- Sault Ste. Marie
My kids (or whoever I will to if they are not interested) can inherit all of my prohib guns legally (well at least for now - something can always change), so enough of those excuses - just because someone is not willing to set up the proper legal mechanism in place - it's on them. Displaying a FAL is not that difficult either - so the bolt has to be removed on top of locking it, not like it's something one can move in a dewat. I have not done it yet, but thinking of 3d printing a fake plastic bolt that _can_ be moved while it's on display.
But, yes, if he wants to spend the cash - more power to him... this gun could have been saved, in working condition, in Canada... Sour grapes aside
Only 12.6 firearms can be passed down unless your kids are 12.x owners already. The youngest you can be for owning a FN is about 47 years old, most are well passed that. Its a dying breed which realistically was the intent.
As above - when you go, the guns go. There's no way - legally - for your kids to inherit them, unless you were clairvoyant back in the day and registered firearms to your kids. In fact only certain 12.6 can currently be inherited, the pistol must be pre-1947 iirc. So, yeah, the dewat will be around until they get around to banning those, which will happen eventually, but more likely to be later than sooner.
KotKotofeich
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Ottawa Valley
12.6 cannot be inherited by _individuals_ any more - with c-21 regulations in force the transfers are being refused. That door is now closed.
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There is always the business route, get a business firearms license (BFL) and register them to the business. Then leave the business (and inventory) to your kids. Only thing with registering prohibs to a BFL is they can't go back in the grandfathering system to individuals, but better than turning them in for destruction or welding them up (in my opinion).
stencollector
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
It is possible to form a museum, which is another class of business license. Any prohibs will get their grandfathering gone, but the museum can belong to the family, or be directed by a board, which can be the family. The museum can also continue to aquire granfathered and non-grandfathered prohibs. If charitable status is gained for the museum, then tax receipts can be written for market value on any donations of firearms (etc) to the museum. There are a lot of other benefits to the museum angle, including the ability to put on public demonstrations.
It takes more than merely calling yourself a museum, but it can (and has) been done.
It takes more than merely calling yourself a museum, but it can (and has) been done.
When the full auto ban came in the late 70's I was out of the country with the Army.
We heard nothing about it until we got home and realized that we had missed the boat.
If only I had known, I could have bought a cheap Sten and got the status. sigh*
We heard nothing about it until we got home and realized that we had missed the boat.
If only I had known, I could have bought a cheap Sten and got the status. sigh*
The C1 SSMG and the C2 would be mine with that postal code.
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- Richmond, BC, CANADA
Glad to hear that you have it at LAST. ;-)
Also glad to hear that the deactivation for Switzers was fair tidy.
Also glad to hear that the deactivation for Switzers was fair tidy.
