Another Great Match From the POCO IPSC Crew

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Thanks to the crew for still putting on the fun match after IPSCBC stripped the sanctioning of the match 4 days prior to the match. It appears that IPSCBC is leaning towards only one club to host matches in the Lower Mainland. Perhaps POCO should look at setting up a USPSA match instead, I'm sure the match will sell out.

Thanks Again
 
IPSCBC pulled the sanctioning of the event only days prior? That's pretty lame. Anyone have a reason as to why? Wanting to only use one range in the lower mainland makes no sense to me, unless someone (someones?) at ipscbc is also involved with whatever range they are choosing to host all future events (which sounds like a conflict of interest...)
 
It was really heartening to see all of the shooters showing up - even though it did not give them IPSC points. And you know having smaller squads made the day very smooth, fast and fun. All of those who are into the sport just for the joy of shooting with a minimum of aggravation and drama. It was like breaking up from an abusive relationship - get the boys and get hammered and do all of the things you couldn't before (come to think of it, that is how I got into shooting).

IPSCBC sent out a message to all attendees that it considers the waiver release that all non-Poco members must sign before shooting at the club a violation of privacy. This is after many years of Poco having this policy. It was deemed a 'surprise' to IPSCBC even though every member of their board of directors had attended matches here before. Therefore, despite the fact that 120 or more shooters had received notice of the waiver and had chosen to complete registration, IPSCBC informed the club that they had to issue full refunds to everyone and that the qualifier status was revoked.

Regardless of how one feels about the waiver saying this was a surprise to the organization is just inexplicable. There was no way in the time left that the Poco board could have met, called upon a lawyer to review the demanded changes, even if there was an appetite to bow down toward such an ultimatum. I don't know how it is in other clubs but there is no shortage of demand on Poco range time and resources. If IPSC is so carefree with hanging out its match directors out to dry on the very eve of an event, there are quite a few other disciplines that can easily fill the space and time at PCDHFC. The club executive is quite diverse but I believe is united in being quite angered by how the match directors were dealt with.

Moving forward I'd like to concentrate on the positives, which is that we come to know which shooters in the Lower Mainland want to support other clubs, who are just happy to volunteer and shoot and happy to see their scores. Prizes, points are all secondary to making friends and blasting paper. In the end, that is what we are here for. I think everyone with this same mindset would be happy taking part in similar matches or in disciplines where the focus is on bringing people together for fun. By the way, many of those who came to the match on their own suggested we donate the difference between the match fee and the previous fee to the Shriners, who were supposed to receive a donation from the qualifier. I believe this is being done for those who suggested it.

For the individual shooter, this is a hobby for 95% of us, and the moment a 'hobby' starts pissing you off it's a message to take your foot off the pedal and readdress. When you come to a match and witness hostility, directors haranguing volunteers, petty disputes influencing formal decisions, people becoming enemies and forming cliques, that's a sign to take a step back and really consider the value of one's involvement.

I have a feeling this is precisely what the club will be doing when we address the reasons why IPSCBC yanked the carpet out from under the organizers. Readdress the importance of what an outside body says that affects what an individual club deems appropriate. A valid question any club leadership should ask itself in their relations to an outside body is "who needs who?" The club and its volunteers do all heavy lifting, provide the venue, book the space, all for the benefit of the sport. Having an organization sabotage that effort is unacceptable. Who is hurt the most are those who love the sport itself and just want opportunities to shoot.
 
Keep up the good work - the only goal should be having a good time on a weekend shooting with good people. I was at a steel match that had no affiliation with any league or governing body, and a great time was had by all.
 
Nice thought however my understanding is USPSA in Canada can only exist with the blessing of the local IPSC section.

We do have an official USPSA club in BC and it was blessed by Sean and Clint to open up in first place a few years ago, we had quite a few matches and were quite successful in that.
 
We do have an official USPSA club in BC and it was blessed by Sean and Clint to open up in first place a few years ago, we had quite a few matches and were quite successful in that.

I've shot at a few of those matches and had a really fun time :) Hope you get some more matches going in the fall.
 
We do have an official USPSA club in BC and it was blessed by Sean and Clint to open up in first place a few years ago, we had quite a few matches and were quite successful in that.

I understand that, was just pointing out I believe that blessing needs to remain in good stead for the club to continue. I could be wrong but that was my understanding.
 
No worries, understand, and we do our best been CRO/RO certified and annually re-certified and have no intention to lose the blessings :)
 
Jeff Cooper would roll in his grave over the BS some of these 'few' force on the 'many'

IPSCBC needs to take a hard look at their membership. It is dwindling. Not because of lack of interest, but from the 'leadership choices' made.

Disgusting. We all pay a Tithe to IPSCBC, to support our BC Team to go to nationals etc.

One thing for sure.. when membership falls far enough......

The MEMBERS make the Organization... not the other way around.

Sorry to hear about your match, glad you had the intestinal fortitude to see it through.

Ah well, you only need 14 members in the club to belong to USPSA to get sanctioned in area 1.......that is the other route.
 
I don't know the details of it, but I did get the IPSCBC mail saying why it was pulled. Seem to make sense to me, but I haven't read the waver either, if lawyers did advise against it, there was a reason.
 
Great fun match to see even with the politics pulling the IPSC sanctioning of the event. The support of all shooters who showed up and had fun was great to see.

What many ppl don't realize is that a lot of registrants were coming from out of town and far away to shoot this Qualifier and for a governing body (who should be trying to suppport their ability to compete) to pull that away from them, forcing last minute changes of plans, cancelling hotel bookings, ferries, etc is just wrong. Anyone who has access to the IPSC BC message boards and reads the post and reasons for the removal of sanctioning is just left scratching their head.

In my humble opinion, one of the key goals of IPSC BC should be to grow the sport, and this is obviously not doing that.

FYI the only issue with the club's waiver was with the wording about using personal information for contact, HOWEVER this section of the waiver only applies to those purchasing memberships, and not guests that are shooting in matches there, and it clearly states that this clause is for membership applicants only (so the club can duh... contact its members with AGM, club info, etc)

Instead of working with the club to make the match happen and figure out a solution post match, IPSC BC decided to just yank sanctioning last minute and leave 120 registered shooters high and dry, and the club match directors, the many volunteers, sponsors, etc saying WTF?!

FYI- IPSC BC Board members who yanked the sanctioning have all shot at PoCo club and guess what, they've all signed the same waiver that they now all of a sudden have issues with.
 
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