Another grizzly attack at hunters

Nester said:
This is true. Being at the top of the food chain does give them some leeway. Some people are rather sanctimonious when out in the woods.




http://globalnews.ca/news/1611225/grizzly-bear-attack-in-fernie/
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I don't agree with this... Humans are the top of the food chain. If the grizzly hunt in alberta was still happening they would know their place. But with any offence against a grizz people are punished more than if it was a person, no wonder they are back at the top with no fear of people at all.
 
GeoShooter said:
You go into the bear's home (the woods) and people are wondering why hunters get hurt. If a bear came in your home, you'd do all you could to kill it. Two way street
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I've heard that comment often... usually made by concrete dwelling, cappuccino sucking greens or antis. Its based on the silly premise that the natural habitat of humanity is the concrete jungle and we really have no business being out in the bush. I certainly don't accept that premise.
 
GeoShooter said:
You go into the bear's home (the woods) and people are wondering why hunters get hurt. If a bear came in your home, you'd do all you could to kill it. Two way street
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On behalf of my wife, a fellow Caper, you sir are as thick as pig sh@t. Or your tongue is firmly in cheek.

But make no mistake friends...they've declared war on us. Watch your back trail.
 
To make it clear to all
im a moose and elk hunter of 40 years I have harvested many animals
I'm the owner of my own Bussiness that allows me to spend most of sept and oct deep in the mountains
This year was abnormal amounts of apex predators. Every sow we encountered had 3 Cubs
I had 3 close and I mean under 50 ft encounters with Grizzlies and a couger attack at 2 ft
it was going for my fathers neck .

we are in there domain so all I can say is I no longer take it for granted that I'm safe out there .
Protect yourselfs boys
anyway you can / you know what I mean
 
BigUglyMan said:
On behalf of my wife, a fellow Caper, you sir are as thick as pig sh@t. Or your tongue is firmly in cheek.

But make no mistake friends...they've declared war on us. Watch your back trail.
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Read another few posts, I think this user (GeoShooter) is hoping for the "Banned" wagon
 
The black bear numbers are very high in our region. Many hunters come up here from elsewhere for moose "open week' last week of October. I stated this in other threads but it bears (had to slip that in there) repeating. Be very bear aware if you head this way. They are everywhere.
 
Ardent said:
This happened in BC, he's only being treated in Calgary. In fairness, I've done a good deal of helicopter flying in Grizzly regions of Alberta, and they aren't doing well, especially compared to BC. Compared to historical populations, Grizzlies are doing quite poorly in Alberta, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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What?
 
Call me paranoid, but I too notice there's lots of predator numbers on the upswing. My evening small game hunts became a bit worrisome because something was always following me at dusk. Once or twice a lynx, maybe about the same for wolf, more likely black bears or coyotes though. One heart pounding time I returned to retrieve a rabbit and something big was about 6 feet away from me, either a large wolf or a black bear. Several very long seconds later while watching each other frozen in time, it finally moved off. My heart was in my throat! When I'm alone a rimfire is never my choice anymore. Always a shotgun, minimum 20 gauge. Slugs or 12 gauge 000 buckshot in my pockets too for up here in wolf/BB country. But if I lived near the mountains my shotgun ammo choice would be birdshot and brennekes, and nothing in between.

I feel safer.
 
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And the citiots keep rushing in on this one...

A bear expert at the University of Calgary says a hunter who shot a grizzly near Fernie, B.C., should have used bear spray.

Wilf Lloyd, 56, was hunting with his son-in-law on Sunday in a heavily wooded area when the bear attacked him.

His companion fired at the bear but missed, hitting Lloyd. He then fired another shot that killed the bear.

U of C bear behaviour expert Stephen Herrero says using a firearm in such situations isn't the best choice.

“If they'd used bear spray it might have come out happier,” he said.

“Our research has shown that bear spray is 80 to 90 per cent effective, whereas firearms are significantly less effective in providing safety for the person.”

Three people have been killed by grizzlies this year in North America — two of them hunters, said Herrero.

At this time of year bears are focused on food as they try to fatten up for the winter.

Lloyd was rushed to Calgary's Foothills Hospital by air ambulance, where he remains.
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Okay, this is nothing compared to grizzlies, but the constant presence of apex predators became a fresh reminder for myself this morning.

Walking around a hunting spot not far away, there was three piles of BB poop within 8 feet of the remains of WT deer killed by predators.
Out came the birdshot in went the slugs.

A few wolves or a pack of coyotes did the dirty deed a while ago, but now a black bear shows up.
 
Ardent said:
Grizzlies are doing quite poorly in Alberta, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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You're joking right??? Maybe tell that to some of the farmers around Elmworth-(west of Grande Praire). they are afraid to let their kids play outside due to the number of g bears that frequent the area and think nothing of it to come into the yard looking for food.
 
BigUglyMan said:
And the citiots keep rushing in on this one...
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Stephen Herrero is a well known and respected bear researcher who, at least in print, shows no squeamishness about shooting a dangerous bear in defense of human life. I've never spoken to the man, so I don't know his opinions on the finer aspects of hunting or firearm ownership. I assume the point he was making when quoted (CBC?) was that had bear spray been available, it might have caused the bear to break off its attack, and once clear of the victim, could have then been safely dispatched with a rifle. I think it would be a mistake to assume that once a mauling was underway, that bear spray alone would resolve the problem. From the point of view of the mauling victim, I'm not sure that being pepper sprayed while being mauled has much advantage over being shot while being mauled.
 
Ardent said:
This happened in BC, he's only being treated in Calgary. In fairness, I've done a good deal of helicopter flying in Grizzly regions of Alberta, and they aren't doing well, especially compared to BC. Compared to historical populations, Grizzlies are doing quite poorly in Alberta, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Since you fly helicopters for a living I am sure you know this but it's pretty easy to miss seeing an animal from a chopper...especially bears. If being in the air were a good way to count bears folks would be doing it.

You should make some inquiries about how grizzlies are doing in the Waterton area BMA...The new results, utilizing DNA from hair on rub trees to count individual bears has pretty well blown the top off the old "guess."

The info is available to those who wish to seek it.
 
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