Another interesting "obscure firearms"...

[cyclone]

....informational site....

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/

I found it rather intriguing........just sharing !

 

[Talquin]

Cool info. Thank you for sharing.

 

[eos]

Very interesting! Thanks.

 

[Pblatzz]

Love a Howa Type 89, wonder if it would be non restricted if made in 'semi only?

 

[moosetaco]

interesting stuff thnx for the post.

 

[9Guns]

right on thanks for sharing

 

[Juster]

Holy moly, A Sterling in 7.62 NATO:
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/gallery/brit-308-prototype/brit 308 prototype 1.jpg

 

[stencollector]

Holy moly, A Sterling in 7.62 NATO:
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/gallery/brit-308-prototype/brit 308 prototype 1.jpg

It is not a sterling product. Someone may have been jimmying around trying to use a sterling trigger mech on a blowback 7.62, but it won't be military. Peter Laidler also believes this to be somebodies one off, and he wrote the book on sterlings.

I personally think this gun is a hoax. If you google it, all you get is the same photo and exactly the same description. It only seemed to show up on the net in the last few months.

 

[eos]

Love a Howa Type 89, wonder if it would be non restricted if made in 'semi only?

Japan may not export military arms by law. (Howa M1 Carbines and New Nambu pistols & revolvers were "police" arms).

 

[Juster]

It is not a sterling product. Someone may have been jimmying around trying to use a sterling trigger mech on a blowback 7.62, but it won't be military. Peter Laidler also believes this to be somebodies one off, and he wrote the book on sterlings.

I personally think this gun is a hoax. If you google it, all you get is the same photo and exactly the same description. It only seemed to show up on the net in the last few months.

 

[stencollector]

Interesting photo, but there seem to be differences between that gun and the one shown earlier. I also have to wonder why the tag hanging from the trigger guard is blacked out on all photos of this gun shown on the net (except the photo above).

Here is a link to a thread on milsurps forum about this gun:
http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=27423

Your photos are interesting. What book are they from?

 

[Lima]

It is not a sterling product. Someone may have been jimmying around trying to use a sterling trigger mech on a blowback 7.62, but it won't be military. Peter Laidler also believes this to be somebodies one off, and he wrote the book on sterlings.

I personally think this gun is a hoax. If you google it, all you get is the same photo and exactly the same description. It only seemed to show up on the net in the last few months.

The gun(s) apparently first showed up in an 1985 ICA article and implies the gun was viewed at Dagenham (Sterling). I have and enjoy Peter's work in my library and he is indeed a bright wealth of knowlege but it is entirely possible two experimental guns were cobbled together somewhere without his knowlege if the article is correct. Remember, production records as the operation were winding down were laregly lost/destroyed.

A guess would be that the newer pictures are from the pattern room (Nottingham?) where the Sterling collection ended up after BA took over? Then again I expect Peter would have access to guns in the pattern room if that is where they are. Bit of a paradox.

In the pictures, I can't figure out if a cam is required on the cocking handle to overcome and unock a locked breech like a CETME/HK.

 

[stencollector]

Comparing the two photos, I am not sure it is the same gun. The body looks smaller on the newer photo of the gun by itself, and the barrel is not shrouded. Perhaps it is someone's mockup?